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Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

i have watched most of salisbury’s games this year. saw a few in person. i have seen several RPI and RIT games. have also seen both of them in person. also have watched a few WC games. 10 out of 10 times, all three would beat WC. WC is not anywhere near as talented.
salisbury is the most complete team. everyone else has a weakness. including RIT and RPI

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:07 pm

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

i have watched most of salisbury’s games this year. saw a few in person. i have seen several RPI and RIT games. have also seen both of them in person. also have watched a few WC games. 10 out of 10 times, all three would beat WC. WC is not anywhere near as talented.
salisbury is the most complete team. everyone else has a weakness. including RIT and RPI

WC might be less talented but it's fair to say that they have given Salisbury the biggest scare this year. At their stadium nonetheless. Rivalries...

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

Tight games are 5 of the RPI wins by one or two goals. I doubt very much that anyone watching the SU game was really thinking the Gulls would lose. It never had that feel.

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:24 pm

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:07 pm

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

i have watched most of salisbury’s games this year. saw a few in person. i have seen several RPI and RIT games. have also seen both of them in person. also have watched a few WC games. 10 out of 10 times, all three would beat WC. WC is not anywhere near as talented.
salisbury is the most complete team. everyone else has a weakness. including RIT and RPI

WC might be less talented but it's fair to say that they have given Salisbury the biggest scare this year. At their stadium nonetheless. Rivalries...

i talked to several of the SU parents. only game that had them and players a little concerned was the beginning of the york game when they went down 0-4 in the first quarter. but never panicked. they were never concerned with WC.

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:05 pm

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:24 pm

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:07 pm

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

i have watched most of salisbury’s games this year. saw a few in person. i have seen several RPI and RIT games. have also seen both of them in person. also have watched a few WC games. 10 out of 10 times, all three would beat WC. WC is not anywhere near as talented.
salisbury is the most complete team. everyone else has a weakness. including RIT and RPI

WC might be less talented but it's fair to say that they have given Salisbury the biggest scare this year. At their stadium nonetheless. Rivalries...

i talked to several of the SU parents. only game that had them and players a little concerned was the beginning of the york game when they went down 0-4 in the first quarter. but never panicked. they were never concerned with WC.

Giving them a scare might be the wrong way to put it. I’m sure the gulls felt like they were going to win the entire time. From the WAC side, being down 3 in the 4th is the closest anybody has been to beating SU all season long. SU is a much better team, this game just had a little bit of the War on the Shore feeling that has been missing the last few years. WAC still has a ton of work to do.

D3LaxFan2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:20 am Salisbury has wins over CNU, Lynchburg, Gettysburg, York, Stevenson.

RPI has wins over RIT, Union, York, Muhlenberg, Middlebury, Williams.

I would say their resumes are fairly even. Both have one really good win (RIT/CNU), and a whole bunch of wins against 15-30 caliber teams.

If you think those teams that you listed are equivalent, I don’t know what to say to you. Williams beat CNU soundly.

I think there is a conversation to be had about number 1. I’m not going to fault anyone for sticking by Salisbury, but let’s not pretend there can’t be a debate.

westernbestern wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:24 pm

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:05 pm

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:24 pm

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:07 pm

kirbysmart14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:56 pm

Motorman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:20 am

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:23 am

EasternShoreLaxGuy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:01 pm I’ll start with the hot takes. Let’s get spicy.

1 - RPI
2 - Salisbury
3 - RIT
4 - Tufts
5 - Swarthmore
6 - Stevens
7 - St Lawrence
8- W and L
9 - Union
10 - Babson
11 - Christopher Newport
12 - Dickinson
13 -Bowdoin
14 - Middlebury
15 - Lynchburg
16 - Amherst
17 - Wesleyan
18 - Endicott
19 - Roanoke
20 - Grove City

RPI over su after beating rit in the rain, at home, with a lot of luck , is a hot take

Lacrosse games only count on neutral fields in the sunshine? Not exactly sure how that win was due to “luck”. Maybe you can explain?

The two resumes aren’t equal. RPI clearly has the better wins and more difficult schedule. They get the nod this week after a strong win vs another top ten team while Salisbury can’t separate from a 3-10 Washington squad. Ultimately meaningless until May. If RPI loses to Amherst on Wednesday, back down they go.

Interesting that SU can play WAC and win by five, game was never actually a tight game. One the oldest most well known lax rivalries that exist yet you feel they play a weak schedule. 54 straight home wins, 14-0 currently and defending Nat Champs. Top Massey ranking and poll ranking, your take seems to be based only on what you think but not by true supporting data.

The game was tight in the 4th quarter. WC cut the lead to 10-7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th.

i have watched most of salisbury’s games this year. saw a few in person. i have seen several RPI and RIT games. have also seen both of them in person. also have watched a few WC games. 10 out of 10 times, all three would beat WC. WC is not anywhere near as talented.
salisbury is the most complete team. everyone else has a weakness. including RIT and RPI

WC might be less talented but it's fair to say that they have given Salisbury the biggest scare this year. At their stadium nonetheless. Rivalries...

i talked to several of the SU parents. only game that had them and players a little concerned was the beginning of the york game when they went down 0-4 in the first quarter. but never panicked. they were never concerned with WC.

Giving them a scare might be the wrong way to put it. I’m sure the gulls felt like they were going to win the entire time. From the WAC side, being down 3 in the 4th is the closest anybody has been to beating SU all season long. SU is a much better team, this game just had a little bit of the War on the Shore feeling that has been missing the last few years. WAC still has a ton of work to do.

i would agree. this game was more about confidence for WC. not really concern for SU. just look at the WC thread. they are talking about cleaning house, firing the coach and staying fresh.

Laxfan1414 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:17 pm

D3LaxFan2 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:20 am Salisbury has wins over CNU, Lynchburg, Gettysburg, York, Stevenson.

RPI has wins over RIT, Union, York, Muhlenberg, Middlebury, Williams.

I would say their resumes are fairly even. Both have one really good win (RIT/CNU), and a whole bunch of wins against 15-30 caliber teams.

If you think those teams that you listed are equivalent, I don’t know what to say to you. Williams beat CNU soundly.

I think there is a conversation to be had about number 1. I’m not going to fault anyone for sticking by Salisbury, but let’s not pretend there can’t be a debate.

York, Ithaca?

My weekly stab at the top 30. This week has a lot of good games on tap that will either show us who is really good or further muddy the waters.
1 Salisbury
2 RPI
3 RIT
4 Tufts
5 Bowdoin
6 Swarthmore
7 W&L
8 Babson
9 St. Lawrence
10 Wesleyan
11 Dickinson
12 Stevens
13 CNU
14 Lynchburg
15 Amherst
16 Union
17 Middlebury
18 Endicott
19 Gettysburg
20 Roanoke
21 Trinity
22 Stevenson
23 Williams
24 Muhlenberg
25 Grove City
26 York
27 Denison
28 St. Mary's
29 Cortland
30 Hamilton

Need to question your rankings of Swarthmore, Steven’s and Babson just on strength of schedule or lack there of.

LacrosseGuy804 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:24 pm Need to question your rankings of Swarthmore, Steven’s and Babson just on strength of schedule or lack there of.

Swat has wins over Dickinson & Gettysburg + wins over Muhlenberg (who just beat Gburg) & Stockton. definitely good enough for Top 10 ranking - but may have them in the 7-9 range rather than at 6

Swarthmore and RPI are in the same boat. I don't think they are the #6 and #2 teams in the country but based on their record they deserve to be there

If you're going to go that route, then I guess one should say that Salisbury shouldn't be the #! either?

BallBag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:57 pm If you're going to go that route, then I guess one should say that Salisbury shouldn't be the #! either?

Pollsters feel otherwise. Hard to knock a team with no loses or close games. IMO

You guys complaining about strength of schedule for Babson, Swarthmore and Stevens need to rethink things cause you are just wrong.

highbouncerswillgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:38 pm Swarthmore and RPI are in the same boat. I don't think they are the #6 and #2 teams in the country but based on their record they deserve to be there

you can debate swarthmore. they are anywhere between 5-15
the only debate for RPI is being #1 or being #2
they are undefeated
have the most top 20 wins

a lot is going to change over the next 2-3 weeks.

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm

highbouncerswillgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:38 pm Swarthmore and RPI are in the same boat. I don't think they are the #6 and #2 teams in the country but based on their record they deserve to be there

you can debate swarthmore. they are anywhere between 5-15
the only debate for RPI is being #1 or being #2
they are undefeated
have the most top 20 wins

a lot is going to change over the next 2-3 weeks.

I agree right now RPI deserves to be #2. No question. They are undefeated. But if they played Salisbury, RIT, tufts tomorrow I'm gonna hammer the latter there. RIT beats them 8/10 times.

They are ranked #2. But I don't think they are the second best team in the country.

highbouncerswillgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:31 pm

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm

highbouncerswillgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:38 pm Swarthmore and RPI are in the same boat. I don't think they are the #6 and #2 teams in the country but based on their record they deserve to be there

you can debate swarthmore. they are anywhere between 5-15
the only debate for RPI is being #1 or being #2
they are undefeated
have the most top 20 wins

a lot is going to change over the next 2-3 weeks.

I agree right now RPI deserves to be #2. No question. They are undefeated. But if they played Salisbury, RIT, tufts tomorrow I'm gonna hammer the latter there. RIT beats them 8/10 times.

They are ranked #2. But I don't think they are the second best team in the country.

that’s cool. i feel the same way about if york played RPI, RIT, St Lawrence or Dickinson again.

highbouncerswillgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:31 pm

Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm

highbouncerswillgo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:38 pm Swarthmore and RPI are in the same boat. I don't think they are the #6 and #2 teams in the country but based on their record they deserve to be there

you can debate swarthmore. they are anywhere between 5-15
the only debate for RPI is being #1 or being #2
they are undefeated
have the most top 20 wins

a lot is going to change over the next 2-3 weeks.

I agree right now RPI deserves to be #2. No question. They are undefeated. But if they played Salisbury, RIT, tufts tomorrow I'm gonna hammer the latter there. RIT beats them 8/10 times.

They are ranked #2. But I don't think they are the second best team in the country.

Agree, Hell, Army was ranked no 1 in D1 for a week. Now down at 12.