All Americans 2024

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AreaLax
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Re: All Americans 2024

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IL’s list of All American’s

First Team
A Brennan O'Neill Duke
A Matt Brandau Yale
A CJ Kirst Cornell
M Evan Plunkett Army
M Mikey Weisshaar Towson
M Shane Knobloch Rutgers
FO Will Coletti Army
SSDM Beau Pederson Michigan
SSDM Ben Ramsey Notre Dame
LSM Jake Piseno UAlbany
D Ajax Zappitello Maryland*
D Scott Smith Johns Hopkins
D Brendan Lavelle Penn
G Liam Entenmann Notre Dame

* unanimous

Second Team
A Connor Shellenberger Virginia
A Pat Kavanagh Notre Dame
A TJ Malone Penn State
M Jake Stevens Syracuse
M Andrew McAdorey Duke
M Devon McLane Notre Dame
FO Justin Wietfeldt Michigan
SSDM Grant Haus Penn State
SSDM Chase Yager Virginia
LSM Stephen Zupicich Villanova
D Kenny Brower Duke
D Cole Kastner Virginia
D Billy Dwan Syracuse
G Emmet Carroll Penn


Third Team
A Joey Spallina Syracuse
A Sam King Harvard
A Chris Kavanagh Notre Dame
M Alexander Vardaro Georgetown
M Griffin Schutz Virginia
M Eric Dobson Notre Dame
FO Alec Stathakis Denver
SSDM Dylan Hess Georgetown
SSDM Brett Martin Johns Hopkins
LSM Will Donovan Notre Dame
D Colby Barsz Towson
D Shawn Lyght Notre Dame
D AJ Pilate Army
D Mason Woodward Marquette
G Jack Fracyon Penn State

Honorable Mention
A Michael Boehm Michigan
A Payton Cormier Virginia
A Louis Perfetto Boston U
A Coulter Mackesy Princeton
A Jacob Angelus Johns Hopkins
A Nick DeMaio Towson
A Garrett Degnon Johns Hopkins
A Michael Long Cornell
A Dalton Young Richmond
A Brayden Mayea High Point
M Matt Collison Johns Hopkins
M Max Krevsky Yale
M Jordan Faison Notre Dame
M Jacob Morin Army
M Michael Leo Syracuse
M Hunter Drouin Colgate
M Chad Palumbo Princeton
M Jake Cates Boston U
M Ryan Donnery Quinnipiac
FO Nathan Laliberte Bryant
FO Mason Kohn Syracuse
FO Will Lynch Notre Dame
FO Luke Wierman Maryland
FO Machado Rodriguez Yale
FO Brady Wambach North Carolina
FO Jake Naso Duke
SSDM Tucker Garrity Jacksonville
SSDM Jackson Peters Navy
SSDM Jack Pilling Richmond
SSDM Reece Potter Towson
SSDM Carter Rice Syracuse
SSDM Aidan Maguire Duke
SSDM Casey Wilson Denver
SSDM Patrick Hackler Yale
LSM Roy Meyer Boston U
LSM Tyler Carpenter Duke
LSM Max Yates Colgate
D Richard Checo Lehigh
D Colin Mulshine Princeton
D Marcus Hudgins Ohio State
D Alex Ross Penn State
D Chris Conlin Notre Dame
D Jackson Bonitz Navy
D Jimmy Freehill Denver
D Ty Banks Georgetown
D Levi Verch Saint Joseph's
D Michael Bath Princeton
D Nikko DiPonio Utah
G Will Mark Syracuse
G Mike Gianforcaro Princeton
G Zach Vigue Richmond
G Chayse Ierlan Johns Hopkins
BigMoose9
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Re: All Americans 2024

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AreaLax wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:11 pm IL’s list of All American’s

First Team
A Brennan O'Neill Duke
A Matt Brandau Yale
A CJ Kirst Cornell
M Evan Plunkett Army
M Mikey Weisshaar Towson
M Shane Knobloch Rutgers
FO Will Coletti Army
SSDM Beau Pederson Michigan
SSDM Ben Ramsey Notre Dame
LSM Jake Piseno UAlbany
D Ajax Zappitello Maryland*
D Scott Smith Johns Hopkins
D Brendan Lavelle Penn
G Liam Entenmann Notre Dame

* unanimous

Second Team
A Connor Shellenberger Virginia
A Pat Kavanagh Notre Dame
A TJ Malone Penn State
M Jake Stevens Syracuse
M Andrew McAdorey Duke
M Devon McLane Notre Dame
FO Justin Wietfeldt Michigan
SSDM Grant Haus Penn State
SSDM Chase Yager Virginia
LSM Stephen Zupicich Villanova
D Kenny Brower Duke
D Cole Kastner Virginia
D Billy Dwan Syracuse
G Emmet Carroll Penn


Third Team
A Joey Spallina Syracuse
A Sam King Harvard
A Chris Kavanagh Notre Dame
M Alexander Vardaro Georgetown
M Griffin Schutz Virginia
M Eric Dobson Notre Dame
FO Alec Stathakis Denver
SSDM Dylan Hess Georgetown
SSDM Brett Martin Johns Hopkins
LSM Will Donovan Notre Dame
D Colby Barsz Towson
D Shawn Lyght Notre Dame
D AJ Pilate Army
D Mason Woodward Marquette
G Jack Fracyon Penn State

Honorable Mention
A Michael Boehm Michigan
A Payton Cormier Virginia
A Louis Perfetto Boston U
A Coulter Mackesy Princeton
A Jacob Angelus Johns Hopkins
A Nick DeMaio Towson
A Garrett Degnon Johns Hopkins
A Michael Long Cornell
A Dalton Young Richmond
A Brayden Mayea High Point
M Matt Collison Johns Hopkins
M Max Krevsky Yale
M Jordan Faison Notre Dame
M Jacob Morin Army
M Michael Leo Syracuse
M Hunter Drouin Colgate
M Chad Palumbo Princeton
M Jake Cates Boston U
M Ryan Donnery Quinnipiac
FO Nathan Laliberte Bryant
FO Mason Kohn Syracuse
FO Will Lynch Notre Dame
FO Luke Wierman Maryland
FO Machado Rodriguez Yale
FO Brady Wambach North Carolina
FO Jake Naso Duke
SSDM Tucker Garrity Jacksonville
SSDM Jackson Peters Navy
SSDM Jack Pilling Richmond
SSDM Reece Potter Towson
SSDM Carter Rice Syracuse
SSDM Aidan Maguire Duke
SSDM Casey Wilson Denver
SSDM Patrick Hackler Yale
LSM Roy Meyer Boston U
LSM Tyler Carpenter Duke
LSM Max Yates Colgate
D Richard Checo Lehigh
D Colin Mulshine Princeton
D Marcus Hudgins Ohio State
D Alex Ross Penn State
D Chris Conlin Notre Dame
D Jackson Bonitz Navy
D Jimmy Freehill Denver
D Ty Banks Georgetown
D Levi Verch Saint Joseph's
D Michael Bath Princeton
D Nikko DiPonio Utah
G Will Mark Syracuse
G Mike Gianforcaro Princeton
G Zach Vigue Richmond
G Chayse Ierlan Johns Hopkins
I have a lot of gripes with this list but being a Notre Dame fan the biggest one being Pat kav not on first team. Best offensive player on the best team in the country isn’t a first teamer. Also, happy that Devon McLane got recognized as a 2nd teamer but if I had to pick I would say Dobson and Faison are better than him.
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Re: All Americans 2024

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BigMoose9 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:16 pm
AreaLax wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:11 pm IL’s list of All American’s

First Team
A Brennan O'Neill Duke
A Matt Brandau Yale
A CJ Kirst Cornell
M Evan Plunkett Army
M Mikey Weisshaar Towson
M Shane Knobloch Rutgers
FO Will Coletti Army
SSDM Beau Pederson Michigan
SSDM Ben Ramsey Notre Dame
LSM Jake Piseno UAlbany
D Ajax Zappitello Maryland*
D Scott Smith Johns Hopkins
D Brendan Lavelle Penn
G Liam Entenmann Notre Dame

* unanimous

Second Team
A Connor Shellenberger Virginia
A Pat Kavanagh Notre Dame
A TJ Malone Penn State
M Jake Stevens Syracuse
M Andrew McAdorey Duke
M Devon McLane Notre Dame
FO Justin Wietfeldt Michigan
SSDM Grant Haus Penn State
SSDM Chase Yager Virginia
LSM Stephen Zupicich Villanova
D Kenny Brower Duke
D Cole Kastner Virginia
D Billy Dwan Syracuse
G Emmet Carroll Penn


Third Team
A Joey Spallina Syracuse
A Sam King Harvard
A Chris Kavanagh Notre Dame
M Alexander Vardaro Georgetown
M Griffin Schutz Virginia
M Eric Dobson Notre Dame
FO Alec Stathakis Denver
SSDM Dylan Hess Georgetown
SSDM Brett Martin Johns Hopkins
LSM Will Donovan Notre Dame
D Colby Barsz Towson
D Shawn Lyght Notre Dame
D AJ Pilate Army
D Mason Woodward Marquette
G Jack Fracyon Penn State

Honorable Mention
A Michael Boehm Michigan
A Payton Cormier Virginia
A Louis Perfetto Boston U
A Coulter Mackesy Princeton
A Jacob Angelus Johns Hopkins
A Nick DeMaio Towson
A Garrett Degnon Johns Hopkins
A Michael Long Cornell
A Dalton Young Richmond
A Brayden Mayea High Point
M Matt Collison Johns Hopkins
M Max Krevsky Yale
M Jordan Faison Notre Dame
M Jacob Morin Army
M Michael Leo Syracuse
M Hunter Drouin Colgate
M Chad Palumbo Princeton
M Jake Cates Boston U
M Ryan Donnery Quinnipiac
FO Nathan Laliberte Bryant
FO Mason Kohn Syracuse
FO Will Lynch Notre Dame
FO Luke Wierman Maryland
FO Machado Rodriguez Yale
FO Brady Wambach North Carolina
FO Jake Naso Duke
SSDM Tucker Garrity Jacksonville
SSDM Jackson Peters Navy
SSDM Jack Pilling Richmond
SSDM Reece Potter Towson
SSDM Carter Rice Syracuse
SSDM Aidan Maguire Duke
SSDM Casey Wilson Denver
SSDM Patrick Hackler Yale
LSM Roy Meyer Boston U
LSM Tyler Carpenter Duke
LSM Max Yates Colgate
D Richard Checo Lehigh
D Colin Mulshine Princeton
D Marcus Hudgins Ohio State
D Alex Ross Penn State
D Chris Conlin Notre Dame
D Jackson Bonitz Navy
D Jimmy Freehill Denver
D Ty Banks Georgetown
D Levi Verch Saint Joseph's
D Michael Bath Princeton
D Nikko DiPonio Utah
G Will Mark Syracuse
G Mike Gianforcaro Princeton
G Zach Vigue Richmond
G Chayse Ierlan Johns Hopkins
I have a lot of gripes with this list but being a Notre Dame fan the biggest one being Pat kav not on first team. Best offensive player on the best team in the country isn’t a first teamer. Also, happy that Devon McLane got recognized as a 2nd teamer but if I had to pick I would say Dobson and Faison are better than him.
Only a ND fan would think Faison is an AA... lol. Why don't we give AA to my grandmom while you're at it.
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Re: All Americans 2024

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Don’t watch a ton but surprise degnon over Angelus
Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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Re: All Americans 2024

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BigMoose9 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:16 pm
AreaLax wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:11 pm IL’s list of All American’s

First Team
A Brennan O'Neill Duke
A Matt Brandau Yale
A CJ Kirst Cornell
M Evan Plunkett Army
M Mikey Weisshaar Towson
M Shane Knobloch Rutgers
FO Will Coletti Army
SSDM Beau Pederson Michigan
SSDM Ben Ramsey Notre Dame
LSM Jake Piseno UAlbany
D Ajax Zappitello Maryland*
D Scott Smith Johns Hopkins
D Brendan Lavelle Penn
G Liam Entenmann Notre Dame

* unanimous

Second Team
A Connor Shellenberger Virginia
A Pat Kavanagh Notre Dame
A TJ Malone Penn State
M Jake Stevens Syracuse
M Andrew McAdorey Duke
M Devon McLane Notre Dame
FO Justin Wietfeldt Michigan
SSDM Grant Haus Penn State
SSDM Chase Yager Virginia
LSM Stephen Zupicich Villanova
D Kenny Brower Duke
D Cole Kastner Virginia
D Billy Dwan Syracuse
G Emmet Carroll Penn


Third Team
A Joey Spallina Syracuse
A Sam King Harvard
A Chris Kavanagh Notre Dame
M Alexander Vardaro Georgetown
M Griffin Schutz Virginia
M Eric Dobson Notre Dame
FO Alec Stathakis Denver
SSDM Dylan Hess Georgetown
SSDM Brett Martin Johns Hopkins
LSM Will Donovan Notre Dame
D Colby Barsz Towson
D Shawn Lyght Notre Dame
D AJ Pilate Army
D Mason Woodward Marquette
G Jack Fracyon Penn State

Honorable Mention
A Michael Boehm Michigan
A Payton Cormier Virginia
A Louis Perfetto Boston U
A Coulter Mackesy Princeton
A Jacob Angelus Johns Hopkins
A Nick DeMaio Towson
A Garrett Degnon Johns Hopkins
A Michael Long Cornell
A Dalton Young Richmond
A Brayden Mayea High Point
M Matt Collison Johns Hopkins
M Max Krevsky Yale
M Jordan Faison Notre Dame
M Jacob Morin Army
M Michael Leo Syracuse
M Hunter Drouin Colgate
M Chad Palumbo Princeton
M Jake Cates Boston U
M Ryan Donnery Quinnipiac
FO Nathan Laliberte Bryant
FO Mason Kohn Syracuse
FO Will Lynch Notre Dame
FO Luke Wierman Maryland
FO Machado Rodriguez Yale
FO Brady Wambach North Carolina
FO Jake Naso Duke
SSDM Tucker Garrity Jacksonville
SSDM Jackson Peters Navy
SSDM Jack Pilling Richmond
SSDM Reece Potter Towson
SSDM Carter Rice Syracuse
SSDM Aidan Maguire Duke
SSDM Casey Wilson Denver
SSDM Patrick Hackler Yale
LSM Roy Meyer Boston U
LSM Tyler Carpenter Duke
LSM Max Yates Colgate
D Richard Checo Lehigh
D Colin Mulshine Princeton
D Marcus Hudgins Ohio State
D Alex Ross Penn State
D Chris Conlin Notre Dame
D Jackson Bonitz Navy
D Jimmy Freehill Denver
D Ty Banks Georgetown
D Levi Verch Saint Joseph's
D Michael Bath Princeton
D Nikko DiPonio Utah
G Will Mark Syracuse
G Mike Gianforcaro Princeton
G Zach Vigue Richmond
G Chayse Ierlan Johns Hopkins
I have a lot of gripes with this list but being a Notre Dame fan the biggest one being Pat kav not on first team. Best offensive player on the best team in the country isn’t a first teamer. Also, happy that Devon McLane got recognized as a 2nd teamer but if I had to pick I would say Dobson and Faison are better than him.
I actually like the 2nd team better, but they are all pretty close. If I am kicking someone off the 1st team, it’s ONeill. That was never going to happen
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Re: All Americans 2024

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This is the AA list equivalent of Jordan Evans over Matt Rambo. Well done again, IL.
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Re: All Americans 2024

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Kirst and Brandau being 1AA and Shelly and Kav being 2AA is a joke. That's so cute, the JV squad gets first team AA in their lil cupcake league...hope they are having fun watching the tournament!
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Impressive that Zappitello was the only unanimous selection
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Payton as HM :shock: Every team would cut off their left nut to have him.
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Remind me again if Entenmann made zero saves and got pulled in a game this year.
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Did he? I don't know. Did every player on this list dominate every half this season?
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youthathletics wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:16 pm Payton as HM :shock: Every team would cut off their left nut to have him.
Agree it's shocking that a guy who does nothing but score tons of goals, many from his own playmaking, is not recognized better. But I doubt anyone's donating a testacle for his services.
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No he didn’t. Entenmanns never made zero saves and gotten pulled. He averaged 70%+ that same weekend.
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It's obvious IL has an agenda; sport expansion. This is reflected in their choices.
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At the end of the day USILA list is the one that matters anyway.
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BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:38 pm At the end of the day USILA list is the one that matters anyway.
Why?
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keno in reno wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:40 pm
BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:38 pm At the end of the day USILA list is the one that matters anyway.
Why?
Submitted by college coaches and goes to a committee. Not a bunch of guys who have never played college lacrosse.

USILA also gives out the Enners, Schmeisser, etc. it’s the “official” list
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BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:45 pm
keno in reno wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:40 pm
BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:38 pm At the end of the day USILA list is the one that matters anyway.
Why?
Submitted by college coaches and goes to a committee. Not a bunch of guys who have never played college lacrosse.

USILA also gives out the Enners, Schmeisser, etc. it’s the “official” list
Based on the AA lists submitted thus far, as well as the discussions on fanlax, I'm guessing that there's a better than typical chance that the Enners Award and the Tewaaraton award are not given to the same player for the 2024 season.
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Re: All Americans 2024

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BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:45 pm
keno in reno wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:40 pm
BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:38 pm At the end of the day USILA list is the one that matters anyway.
Why?
Submitted by college coaches and goes to a committee. Not a bunch of guys who have never played college lacrosse.

USILA also gives out the Enners, Schmeisser, etc. it’s the “official” list
Do you think USILA is above the politics and connections that every other organization in the world is subject to?
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keno in reno wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 11:39 pm
BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:45 pm
keno in reno wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:40 pm
BigTurn wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:38 pm At the end of the day USILA list is the one that matters anyway.
Why?
Submitted by college coaches and goes to a committee. Not a bunch of guys who have never played college lacrosse.

USILA also gives out the Enners, Schmeisser, etc. it’s the “official” list
Do you think USILA is above the politics and connections that every other organization in the world is subject to?
No. But I value their opinions more than IL, who takes voting input from random lacrosse twitter accounts and people who have never played college lacrosse, let alone D1. It’s also not like this is just me.. it’s been the list people point to for AA for as long as I remember.
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