The country that was

[youthathletics]

No, I simply don’t hate them like some angry old man jealous of their youth.

I don't hate them & I'm certainly not jealous. I fear for them & the future of our nation & society, if our future leaders are being so easily manipulated. They're addicted to the dopamine hits they get from the screen in their hands. We have no control over the content they're absorbing, who's manipulating it & to what end. We're finally going after Tik Tok, but based on what we're seeing on our campuses, I fear it's too late.
For the first time ever, I'm sincerely worried about our future.

The same as is always said by old folks about the young...and may it ever continue.

Of course I'm old too, so I actually do share concern about how young people will handle the challenges they face now and in the future, but I'm reassured at least on that front that this is a cycle of maturation that each generation deals with, some more acutely than others. The young people just before my adulthood went through enormous traumas in war, assassinations, threat of nuclear annihilation, civil rights, women's right, gay rights, environmental awakening, police beating and shooting student protestors, bombings by protestors, rampant lying and corruption in the highest levels of government including military, oil shocks, stagflation...we (Boomer generation) screwed up plenty, but the needle did move forward and America continued to be the most successful country in the world on many critical measures...though not all...

and yes, there's some very ugly garbage from tohe left that's anti-semitic in core nature that's been promulgated in various ways including via technology. Needs to be strongly confrnted as such, though, not the impulse to protest war atrocities per se. Again, I'm much more concerned on that front with the adult agitators than the youngsters.

However, I'm most concerned in terms of manipulation through technology with right wing propaganda fed by authoritarians here and abroad for profit or power, impacting across our population age. I've witnessed how unbelievably gullible so many of of our fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family members are when they consume a limited set of reinforcing propagandist media sources, whether through 'talk radio', cable TV, Facebook, podcast, YouTube... etc. And all are being actively and purposely influenced heavily by malign forces here and abroad with views and interests truly antithetical to core American values and interests.

I think you understated your concern about technology in the first bold portion, that went off the deep end in the 2nd paragraph. They both utilize technology and both for nefarious/deceptive/reasons.

I saw a post recently, where the inventor of 'Only Fans' was interviewed and approached by the BIden PR team to promulgate info that is, shall we say.... BS.

You didn't listen to her. She said it wasn't Biden. It was a Third Party. Not the same thing. Not even CLOSE. For all we know, it could have been the Lincoln Project calling her.

..............We are ALL being played, as if its just a simulation put on by others and you and I are hear arguing the details, all while they are getting exactly what they want; some minimize it to 'just kids' while others argue 'its strategic and deceptive"..............

Now THIS I agree with.....

Clickbait. Been telling you chaps this for what is now years. They don't care what you click on....they just want you to click. It's apolitical....all about the Benjamins.

I stated a Biden PR team, I assumed that would mean on his behalf.

[a fan]

I stated a Biden PR team, I assumed that would mean on his behalf.

Again, that's incorrect. She only said it was "a third party". That could mean anything.

Plenty to hit Biden for doing....this isn't one of them.

[old salt]

Interesting that you've assumed that the US is a guaranteed safe haven. Most of my Jewish friends have never assumed that to be the case,

way too much countervailing history here in the US.

Not this widespread. Not this socially accepted. Not by so many of our future elites & leaders.
Not this widely rationalized by so many influential apologists & enablers.

[youthathletics]

No, I simply don’t hate them like some angry old man jealous of their youth.

I don't hate them & I'm certainly not jealous. I fear for them & the future of our nation & society, if our future leaders are being so easily manipulated. They're addicted to the dopamine hits they get from the screen in their hands. We have no control over the content they're absorbing, who's manipulating it & to what end. We're finally going after Tik Tok, but based on what we're seeing on our campuses, I fear it's too late.
For the first time ever, I'm sincerely worried about our future.

The same as is always said by old folks about the young...and may it ever continue.

Of course I'm old too, so I actually do share concern about how young people will handle the challenges they face now and in the future, but I'm reassured at least on that front that this is a cycle of maturation that each generation deals with, some more acutely than others. The young people just before my adulthood went through enormous traumas in war, assassinations, threat of nuclear annihilation, civil rights, women's right, gay rights, environmental awakening, police beating and shooting student protestors, bombings by protestors, rampant lying and corruption in the highest levels of government including military, oil shocks, stagflation...we (Boomer generation) screwed up plenty, but the needle did move forward and America continued to be the most successful country in the world on many critical measures...though not all...

and yes, there's some very ugly garbage from tohe left that's anti-semitic in core nature that's been promulgated in various ways including via technology. Needs to be strongly confrnted as such, though, not the impulse to protest war atrocities per se. Again, I'm much more concerned on that front with the adult agitators than the youngsters.

However, I'm most concerned in terms of manipulation through technology with right wing propaganda fed by authoritarians here and abroad for profit or power, impacting across our population age. I've witnessed how unbelievably gullible so many of of our fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family members are when they consume a limited set of reinforcing propagandist media sources, whether through 'talk radio', cable TV, Facebook, podcast, YouTube... etc. And all are being actively and purposely influenced heavily by malign forces here and abroad with views and interests truly antithetical to core American values and interests.

I think you understated your concern about technology in the first bold portion, that went off the deep end in the 2nd paragraph. They both utilize technology and both for nefarious/deceptive/reasons.

I saw a post recently, where the inventor of 'Only Fans' was interviewed and approached by the BIden PR team to promulgate info that is, shall we say.... BS.

I would also argue its why they are still trying to monitor/legislate transaction via Venmo and other Apps that transfer money. My guess, you'd see the cookie crumbs of tech being put to use to make these protests even larger than they would have ever reached....thus making you and I believe its a big deal. There is something deceptive taking place.....and while you may brush it aside and merely call it the 'frontal cortex' not being fully developed, I would argue that is shortsighted and missing the larger picture. We are ALL being played, as if its just a simulation put on by others and you and I are hear arguing the details, all while they are getting exactly what they want; some minimize it to 'just kids' while others argue 'its strategic and deceptive".

In the end....we can both be right, just depends on how hard you want to dig in your heels.

I don't think I'm being understated at all.

Not sure why your twitter links aren't opening for me, but I see this one is from Colin Rugg yet again...there's yet to have been a tweet from his thread that I haven't found stupid or misleading or flat out misinformation, so probably supports your contention that we're all being manipulated.

Undoubtedly so, to some extent.

But it's CRAZY bad from the right wing, a flood of outright lies being embraced by the gullible. I see that in my real-world interactions near constantly.

Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics....https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1784951750262395237

[MDlaxfan76]

Interesting that you've assumed that the US is a guaranteed safe haven. Most of my Jewish friends have never assumed that to be the case,

way too much countervailing history here in the US.

Not this widespread. Not this socially accepted. Not by so many of our future elites & leaders.
Not this widely rationalized by so many influential apologists & enablers.

Our history of anti-semitism is much more fraught than you apparently realize. And anti-semitic sentiment on the right is quite deeply rooted in that history. Not just the skinhead variety of low lifes, right at the top of intelligentsia and power.

What we are seeing conflated right now on some of the left is the reaction against what is very close to genocidal war crimes by the current Israeli government...conflated with actual anti-semitism.

Could this blossom into a permanent anti-Jewish sentiment here in the US? Sure...if American Jews uniformly supported the Netanyahu government that would make such easier...but they do not.

I doubt very much that this protest movement will stick as a permanently anti-semitic issue.

[MDlaxfan76]

No, I simply don’t hate them like some angry old man jealous of their youth.

I don't hate them & I'm certainly not jealous. I fear for them & the future of our nation & society, if our future leaders are being so easily manipulated. They're addicted to the dopamine hits they get from the screen in their hands. We have no control over the content they're absorbing, who's manipulating it & to what end. We're finally going after Tik Tok, but based on what we're seeing on our campuses, I fear it's too late.
For the first time ever, I'm sincerely worried about our future.

The same as is always said by old folks about the young...and may it ever continue.

Of course I'm old too, so I actually do share concern about how young people will handle the challenges they face now and in the future, but I'm reassured at least on that front that this is a cycle of maturation that each generation deals with, some more acutely than others. The young people just before my adulthood went through enormous traumas in war, assassinations, threat of nuclear annihilation, civil rights, women's right, gay rights, environmental awakening, police beating and shooting student protestors, bombings by protestors, rampant lying and corruption in the highest levels of government including military, oil shocks, stagflation...we (Boomer generation) screwed up plenty, but the needle did move forward and America continued to be the most successful country in the world on many critical measures...though not all...

and yes, there's some very ugly garbage from tohe left that's anti-semitic in core nature that's been promulgated in various ways including via technology. Needs to be strongly confrnted as such, though, not the impulse to protest war atrocities per se. Again, I'm much more concerned on that front with the adult agitators than the youngsters.

However, I'm most concerned in terms of manipulation through technology with right wing propaganda fed by authoritarians here and abroad for profit or power, impacting across our population age. I've witnessed how unbelievably gullible so many of of our fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family members are when they consume a limited set of reinforcing propagandist media sources, whether through 'talk radio', cable TV, Facebook, podcast, YouTube... etc. And all are being actively and purposely influenced heavily by malign forces here and abroad with views and interests truly antithetical to core American values and interests.

I think you understated your concern about technology in the first bold portion, that went off the deep end in the 2nd paragraph. They both utilize technology and both for nefarious/deceptive/reasons.

I saw a post recently, where the inventor of 'Only Fans' was interviewed and approached by the BIden PR team to promulgate info that is, shall we say.... BS.

I would also argue its why they are still trying to monitor/legislate transaction via Venmo and other Apps that transfer money. My guess, you'd see the cookie crumbs of tech being put to use to make these protests even larger than they would have ever reached....thus making you and I believe its a big deal. There is something deceptive taking place.....and while you may brush it aside and merely call it the 'frontal cortex' not being fully developed, I would argue that is shortsighted and missing the larger picture. We are ALL being played, as if its just a simulation put on by others and you and I are hear arguing the details, all while they are getting exactly what they want; some minimize it to 'just kids' while others argue 'its strategic and deceptive".

In the end....we can both be right, just depends on how hard you want to dig in your heels.

I don't think I'm being understated at all.

Not sure why your twitter links aren't opening for me, but I see this one is from Colin Rugg yet again...there's yet to have been a tweet from his thread that I haven't found stupid or misleading or flat out misinformation, so probably supports your contention that we're all being manipulated.

Undoubtedly so, to some extent.

But it's CRAZY bad from the right wing, a flood of outright lies being embraced by the gullible. I see that in my real-world interactions near constantly.

Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics....https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1784951750262395237

Sorry, my safari isn't connecting me to your links...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

[MDlaxfan76]

No, I simply don’t hate them like some angry old man jealous of their youth.

I don't hate them & I'm certainly not jealous. I fear for them & the future of our nation & society, if our future leaders are being so easily manipulated. They're addicted to the dopamine hits they get from the screen in their hands. We have no control over the content they're absorbing, who's manipulating it & to what end. We're finally going after Tik Tok, but based on what we're seeing on our campuses, I fear it's too late.
For the first time ever, I'm sincerely worried about our future.

The same as is always said by old folks about the young...and may it ever continue.

Of course I'm old too, so I actually do share concern about how young people will handle the challenges they face now and in the future, but I'm reassured at least on that front that this is a cycle of maturation that each generation deals with, some more acutely than others. The young people just before my adulthood went through enormous traumas in war, assassinations, threat of nuclear annihilation, civil rights, women's right, gay rights, environmental awakening, police beating and shooting student protestors, bombings by protestors, rampant lying and corruption in the highest levels of government including military, oil shocks, stagflation...we (Boomer generation) screwed up plenty, but the needle did move forward and America continued to be the most successful country in the world on many critical measures...though not all...

and yes, there's some very ugly garbage from tohe left that's anti-semitic in core nature that's been promulgated in various ways including via technology. Needs to be strongly confrnted as such, though, not the impulse to protest war atrocities per se. Again, I'm much more concerned on that front with the adult agitators than the youngsters.

However, I'm most concerned in terms of manipulation through technology with right wing propaganda fed by authoritarians here and abroad for profit or power, impacting across our population age. I've witnessed how unbelievably gullible so many of of our fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family members are when they consume a limited set of reinforcing propagandist media sources, whether through 'talk radio', cable TV, Facebook, podcast, YouTube... etc. And all are being actively and purposely influenced heavily by malign forces here and abroad with views and interests truly antithetical to core American values and interests.

I think you understated your concern about technology in the first bold portion, that went off the deep end in the 2nd paragraph. They both utilize technology and both for nefarious/deceptive/reasons.

I saw a post recently, where the inventor of 'Only Fans' was interviewed and approached by the BIden PR team to promulgate info that is, shall we say.... BS.

I would also argue its why they are still trying to monitor/legislate transaction via Venmo and other Apps that transfer money. My guess, you'd see the cookie crumbs of tech being put to use to make these protests even larger than they would have ever reached....thus making you and I believe its a big deal. There is something deceptive taking place.....and while you may brush it aside and merely call it the 'frontal cortex' not being fully developed, I would argue that is shortsighted and missing the larger picture. We are ALL being played, as if its just a simulation put on by others and you and I are hear arguing the details, all while they are getting exactly what they want; some minimize it to 'just kids' while others argue 'its strategic and deceptive".

In the end....we can both be right, just depends on how hard you want to dig in your heels.

I don't think I'm being understated at all.

Not sure why your twitter links aren't opening for me, but I see this one is from Colin Rugg yet again...there's yet to have been a tweet from his thread that I haven't found stupid or misleading or flat out misinformation, so probably supports your contention that we're all being manipulated.

Undoubtedly so, to some extent.

But it's CRAZY bad from the right wing, a flood of outright lies being embraced by the gullible. I see that in my real-world interactions near constantly.

Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics....https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1784951750262395237

Sorry, my safari isn't connecting me to your links...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

ok, I used chrome and listened to Carville.

Tell me exactly what Carville is lying about.
Specifically, what is he saying that is not true?

He's saying it with a lot of vehemence as a wake up call to 'whining' young people who aren't, in his view, sufficiently focused on the actual stakes of the binary choice before us, but I didn't hear anything that wasn't truthful.

Do you think The President should have absolute immunity as Trump has argued repeatedly in Court and outside of court?

[old salt]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

[Seacoaster(1)]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

What is Carville lying about?

[old salt]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

What is Carville lying about?

I did not say he was lying ? He probably believes everything he says.
It should not matter who posted it via X -- it's 100% unabridged Carville.

[Seacoaster(1)]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

What is Carville lying about?

Who said he was lying ? He probably believes everything he says.
It should not matter who posted it via X -- it's 100% unabridged Carville.

No, no. It was posted by YA from his trove of Right Wing Twitter-Apostles, with this introduction by YA:

"Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics...."

This is why MDLax and I are asking what he lied about.

[old salt]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

What is Carville lying about?

Who said he was lying ? He probably believes everything he says.
It should not matter who posted it via X -- it's 100% unabridged Carville.

No, no. It was posted by YA from his trove of Right Wing Twitter-Apostles, with this introduction by YA:

"Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics...."

This is why MDLax and I are asking what he lied about.

Then why did you quote & ask me ?

[Seacoaster(1)]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

What is Carville lying about?

Who said he was lying ? He probably believes everything he says.
It should not matter who posted it via X -- it's 100% unabridged Carville.

No, no. It was posted by YA from his trove of Right Wing Twitter-Apostles, with this introduction by YA:

"Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics...."

This is why MDLax and I are asking what he lied about.

Then why did you quote & ask me ?

OK, good talk. Thanks.

[MDlaxfan76]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

I had to open in Chrome...and then responded again...I saw nothing untrue.

In what way was I ever "burying my head in the sand"?

I don't trust anything Rugg posts and generally find whatever commentary from him or his followers to be a-holish.

Once I opened it, I listened to all of Carville's 'rant' and found nothing to be un-true, though with a bit excessive vehemence. Probably wants the 26 year olds to pay attention...

[jhu72]

Interesting that you've assumed that the US is a guaranteed safe haven. Most of my Jewish friends have never assumed that to be the case,

way too much countervailing history here in the US.

Not this widespread. Not this socially accepted. Not by so many of our future elites & leaders.
Not this widely rationalized by so many influential apologists & enablers.

Our history of anti-semitism is much more fraught than you apparently realize. And anti-semitic sentiment on the right is quite deeply rooted in that history. Not just the skinhead variety of low lifes, right at the top of intelligentsia and power.

What we are seeing conflated right now on some of the left is the reaction against what is very close to genocidal war crimes by the current Israeli government...conflated with actual anti-semitism.

Could this blossom into a permanent anti-Jewish sentiment here in the US? Sure...if American Jews uniformly supported the Netanyahu government that would make such easier...but they do not.

I doubt very much that this protest movement will stick as a permanently anti-semitic issue.

100% correct. Just saw the Dean of UC Berkeley Law School say the same thing in an interview. He is being personally harassed by some protestors, for "being Jewish and Zionist". Nonetheless he understands it is not all or a majority of the protestors. This is not inherently an antisemitic event. It is not clear who this minority is. We know there are external agents mixing in to the "protests", based on police reports. We know there are some college/university Muslims involved in the protests on their campus who do feel more strongly than other protestors perhaps. The strength of position is less clear.

[jhu72]

...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

...it is 100% Carville. Impossible to take out of context. Keep burying your head in the sand.

I had to open in Chrome...and then responded again...I saw nothing untrue.

In what way was I ever "burying my head in the sand"?

I don't trust anything Rugg posts and generally find whatever commentary from him or his followers to be a-holish.

Once I opened it, I listened to all of Carville's 'rant' and found nothing to be un-true, though with a bit excessive vehemence. Probably wants the 26 year olds to pay attention...

... it is a typical Carville tactic. He wants everyone to understand the young'uns may need a talking to. I have one of these. Things not going the way she wants, very upset over the Gaza situation, "Biden is doing nothing". She is culturally Jewish and very much a "not in my name" supporter. Carville is certainly not lying.

Rugg is a waste of protoplasm.

[NattyBohChamps04]

Jewish Northwestern student gets harassed by violent anti-semitic protestors. Or something like that.

https://twitter.com/edenxmm/status/1784285668895515108

[jhu72]

Jewish Northwestern student gets harassed by violent anti-semitic protestors. Or something like that.

https://twitter.com/edenxmm/status/1784285668895515108

What a dumb piece of sh*t.

I think I have seen her before, reporting a black teenager.

[youthathletics]

No, I simply don’t hate them like some angry old man jealous of their youth.

I don't hate them & I'm certainly not jealous. I fear for them & the future of our nation & society, if our future leaders are being so easily manipulated. They're addicted to the dopamine hits they get from the screen in their hands. We have no control over the content they're absorbing, who's manipulating it & to what end. We're finally going after Tik Tok, but based on what we're seeing on our campuses, I fear it's too late.
For the first time ever, I'm sincerely worried about our future.

The same as is always said by old folks about the young...and may it ever continue.

Of course I'm old too, so I actually do share concern about how young people will handle the challenges they face now and in the future, but I'm reassured at least on that front that this is a cycle of maturation that each generation deals with, some more acutely than others. The young people just before my adulthood went through enormous traumas in war, assassinations, threat of nuclear annihilation, civil rights, women's right, gay rights, environmental awakening, police beating and shooting student protestors, bombings by protestors, rampant lying and corruption in the highest levels of government including military, oil shocks, stagflation...we (Boomer generation) screwed up plenty, but the needle did move forward and America continued to be the most successful country in the world on many critical measures...though not all...

and yes, there's some very ugly garbage from tohe left that's anti-semitic in core nature that's been promulgated in various ways including via technology. Needs to be strongly confrnted as such, though, not the impulse to protest war atrocities per se. Again, I'm much more concerned on that front with the adult agitators than the youngsters.

However, I'm most concerned in terms of manipulation through technology with right wing propaganda fed by authoritarians here and abroad for profit or power, impacting across our population age. I've witnessed how unbelievably gullible so many of of our fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family members are when they consume a limited set of reinforcing propagandist media sources, whether through 'talk radio', cable TV, Facebook, podcast, YouTube... etc. And all are being actively and purposely influenced heavily by malign forces here and abroad with views and interests truly antithetical to core American values and interests.

I think you understated your concern about technology in the first bold portion, that went off the deep end in the 2nd paragraph. They both utilize technology and both for nefarious/deceptive/reasons.

I saw a post recently, where the inventor of 'Only Fans' was interviewed and approached by the BIden PR team to promulgate info that is, shall we say.... BS.

I would also argue its why they are still trying to monitor/legislate transaction via Venmo and other Apps that transfer money. My guess, you'd see the cookie crumbs of tech being put to use to make these protests even larger than they would have ever reached....thus making you and I believe its a big deal. There is something deceptive taking place.....and while you may brush it aside and merely call it the 'frontal cortex' not being fully developed, I would argue that is shortsighted and missing the larger picture. We are ALL being played, as if its just a simulation put on by others and you and I are hear arguing the details, all while they are getting exactly what they want; some minimize it to 'just kids' while others argue 'its strategic and deceptive".

In the end....we can both be right, just depends on how hard you want to dig in your heels.

I don't think I'm being understated at all.

Not sure why your twitter links aren't opening for me, but I see this one is from Colin Rugg yet again...there's yet to have been a tweet from his thread that I haven't found stupid or misleading or flat out misinformation, so probably supports your contention that we're all being manipulated.

Undoubtedly so, to some extent.

But it's CRAZY bad from the right wing, a flood of outright lies being embraced by the gullible. I see that in my real-world interactions near constantly.

Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics....https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1784951750262395237

Sorry, my safari isn't connecting me to your links...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

ok, I used chrome and listened to Carville.

Tell me exactly what Carville is lying about.
Specifically, what is he saying that is not true?

He's saying it with a lot of vehemence as a wake up call to 'whining' young people who aren't, in his view, sufficiently focused on the actual stakes of the binary choice before us, but I didn't hear anything that wasn't truthful.

Do you think The President should have absolute immunity as Trump has argued repeatedly in Court and outside of court?

The fact you view all these comments below (by Carville) as truths and NOT LIES , is rather concerning. I suppose it makes perfect sense from my POV, b/c whenever Trump or anyone you disagree with says something.....it MUST be fact & etched in stone.

OS is right, either your head is buried in the sand, or you have TDS so bad you can no longer rationalize...maybe both?

Paraphrasing:
~ "If Trump and anyone with an R affiliation wins....we will have no government left"
~ 'you will have no rights left"
~ "Live under Theocracy'
~ You'll end up Christian Nationalism"
~ If you do not vote, your entire future depends on it....

.....implying everything above will come true.

[cradleandshoot]

No, I simply don’t hate them like some angry old man jealous of their youth.

I don't hate them & I'm certainly not jealous. I fear for them & the future of our nation & society, if our future leaders are being so easily manipulated. They're addicted to the dopamine hits they get from the screen in their hands. We have no control over the content they're absorbing, who's manipulating it & to what end. We're finally going after Tik Tok, but based on what we're seeing on our campuses, I fear it's too late.
For the first time ever, I'm sincerely worried about our future.

The same as is always said by old folks about the young...and may it ever continue.

Of course I'm old too, so I actually do share concern about how young people will handle the challenges they face now and in the future, but I'm reassured at least on that front that this is a cycle of maturation that each generation deals with, some more acutely than others. The young people just before my adulthood went through enormous traumas in war, assassinations, threat of nuclear annihilation, civil rights, women's right, gay rights, environmental awakening, police beating and shooting student protestors, bombings by protestors, rampant lying and corruption in the highest levels of government including military, oil shocks, stagflation...we (Boomer generation) screwed up plenty, but the needle did move forward and America continued to be the most successful country in the world on many critical measures...though not all...

and yes, there's some very ugly garbage from tohe left that's anti-semitic in core nature that's been promulgated in various ways including via technology. Needs to be strongly confrnted as such, though, not the impulse to protest war atrocities per se. Again, I'm much more concerned on that front with the adult agitators than the youngsters.

However, I'm most concerned in terms of manipulation through technology with right wing propaganda fed by authoritarians here and abroad for profit or power, impacting across our population age. I've witnessed how unbelievably gullible so many of of our fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family members are when they consume a limited set of reinforcing propagandist media sources, whether through 'talk radio', cable TV, Facebook, podcast, YouTube... etc. And all are being actively and purposely influenced heavily by malign forces here and abroad with views and interests truly antithetical to core American values and interests.

I think you understated your concern about technology in the first bold portion, that went off the deep end in the 2nd paragraph. They both utilize technology and both for nefarious/deceptive/reasons.

I saw a post recently, where the inventor of 'Only Fans' was interviewed and approached by the BIden PR team to promulgate info that is, shall we say.... BS.

I would also argue its why they are still trying to monitor/legislate transaction via Venmo and other Apps that transfer money. My guess, you'd see the cookie crumbs of tech being put to use to make these protests even larger than they would have ever reached....thus making you and I believe its a big deal. There is something deceptive taking place.....and while you may brush it aside and merely call it the 'frontal cortex' not being fully developed, I would argue that is shortsighted and missing the larger picture. We are ALL being played, as if its just a simulation put on by others and you and I are hear arguing the details, all while they are getting exactly what they want; some minimize it to 'just kids' while others argue 'its strategic and deceptive".

In the end....we can both be right, just depends on how hard you want to dig in your heels.

I don't think I'm being understated at all.

Not sure why your twitter links aren't opening for me, but I see this one is from Colin Rugg yet again...there's yet to have been a tweet from his thread that I haven't found stupid or misleading or flat out misinformation, so probably supports your contention that we're all being manipulated.

Undoubtedly so, to some extent.

But it's CRAZY bad from the right wing, a flood of outright lies being embraced by the gullible. I see that in my real-world interactions near constantly.

Your boy James Carville is trying to flood outright lies and scare tactics....https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1784951750262395237

Sorry, my safari isn't connecting me to your links...I see again Colin Rugg?

Seriously?

ok, I used chrome and listened to Carville.

Tell me exactly what Carville is lying about.
Specifically, what is he saying that is not true?

He's saying it with a lot of vehemence as a wake up call to 'whining' young people who aren't, in his view, sufficiently focused on the actual stakes of the binary choice before us, but I didn't hear anything that wasn't truthful.

Do you think The President should have absolute immunity as Trump has argued repeatedly in Court and outside of court?

The fact you view all these comments below (by Carville) as truths and NOT LIES , is rather concerning. I suppose it makes perfect sense from my POV, b/c whenever Trump or anyone you disagree with says something.....it MUST be fact & etched in stone.

OS is right, either your head is buried in the sand, or you have TDS so bad you can no longer rationalize...maybe both?

Paraphrasing:
~ "If Trump and anyone with an R affiliation wins....we will have no government left"
~ 'you will have no rights left"
~ "Live under Theocracy'
~ You'll end up Christian Nationalism"
~ If you do not vote, your entire future depends on it....

.....implying everything above will come true.

And if you live in NYS...

You will be told by Democrats what kind of car you will allowed to buy.

You will be told by Democrats what kind of furnace you will be allowed to buy.

You will be told by Democrats what kind of stove you can buy.

You will be told by Democrats what kind of dryer you can buy.

You will be told by Democrats what kind of lawn mower you can buy.

You will be told by Democrats that your freedom is being taken from you by Republicans. Does anybody see the irony here?