Speaking outside the courtroom Monday, Trump attorney Alina Habba blasted James for questioning the legitimacy of the bond and quipped to reporters that the money “isn’t green enough” for the attorney general.
“We wasted time,” Habba said. “The judge said he thought money market accounts go down under the amount — he doesn’t understand basic principles of finance.
“The attorney general and that judge realized quickly that they had no idea what they were talking about,” she said. “We came to an agreement that everything would be the same, we would modify terms, and that was it. This is where your taxpayer dollars are going, America. Right here: witch hunt after witch hunt.”
Trump lawyer Christopher Kise later piled on in a pointed media statement.
“Despite another flawed and desperate protest by the Attorney General, President Trump is pleased the Court determined the $175 miilion he posted in cash is worth $175 million, and the bond form in use in the New York court system for a century is in fact acceptable,” he said.
Thanks for providing Alina Habba's view of the case. Pretty rich coming from you.
The hearing was to evaluate the bond and void it if Trump and the surety didn't agree to new conditions, which they did. Knight Specialty Insurance Company will retain "exclusive control" of the $175 million account, and the company and Trump will provide a monthly account statement certifying that there are sufficient cash funds for the bond. The Company has agreed to designate an agent for service of process in New York in the event NY has to sue on the bond. And Trumo and the Company agreed that the terms of the bond cannot be amended without notice to the AG and approval of the court. Basic effort to tighten up the terms of the surety in the event NY has to execute its judgment.
All pretty routine fine tuning of an agreement while appeal is pending. But you take Habba's word for it that it was a "waste of taxpayer's money." Sure. Is there anything you aren't in the bag for here?
It wasn't hyped as just "fine tuning" an agreement. It was a request by James to disallow the bond. It should not have required a court hearing & all the hype. It was a media stunt that backfired on James.
Sure it was. And you practiced law, specifically ad a litigator, where? Tell me about your familiarity with bind surety analysis, please.
I know that a Money Market account is a cash account. I have two of them. It was not a brokerage account. Apparently James & the Judge did not recognize the difference.
Pure BS. There are still a couple of questions. The proposed bond is not cash or a cash equivalent. Nor is it stock.
...Trump's cash will continue to earn interest until the absurd judgement against him is reduced or overturned on appeal.
The agreement reached in civil court in Manhattan essentially moves the all-cash collateral to a Trump-proof lockbox. Only the bond underwriter, Knight Specialty Insurance Company, has the key.
Previously, Trump and Knight shared control of the cash, a sticking point for the AG's office.
Monday's agreement was reached during a 20-minute huddle among the lawyers, Law360 reported.
The hearing revealed that the cash, held in a Charles Schwab account pledged to KSIC, has already earned Trump $700,000 in interest, the outlet reported.
The bond keeps AG Letitia James from potentially seizing Trump's assets to satisfy the more than $454 million he owes the state after losing last year's civil fraud trial.
The “key” issue here is that the account could NOT be under the convicted fraudster’s control.
You do understand Trump has been convicted of fraud, correct?
Why would the plaintiff, the State of NY, represented by the NY AG, not move to have the bond that stays collection of the judgement, out of Trump’s control and access? Do you suppose you would, post conviction fir fraud, be allowed control over a cash surety bond?
Now, do you understand why the AG regarded this bond as inadequate and why it needed to be corrected or ruled invalid?
Please tell me you understand this.
As I said. It did not require another Court hearing with all the attendant hype that Trump's bond was being invalidated.
It could have been quietly resolved between the Bond insurer & the AG's office, without all the damp seat cushions at CNN & MSNBC.
James wanted another headline & ended up looking stupid.
Nope. They were intransigent. Original bond was rejected. Next attempt was this mess and included a cover page from the EJ Carroll bond. They were clearly up to the usual fraudulent practices DJT has used his entire "career." They had a chance to use a non-hearing venue, and they failed. How many bites at the apple should a convicted fraudster get? How many do you think you'd get?
What was the alleged fraudulent practice ? What mess ? Was the cash in the money market account or not ? Is the cash still there or not ?
Speaking outside the courtroom Monday, Trump attorney Alina Habba blasted James for questioning the legitimacy of the bond and quipped to reporters that the money “isn’t green enough” for the attorney general.
“We wasted time,” Habba said. “The judge said he thought money market accounts go down under the amount — he doesn’t understand basic principles of finance.
“The attorney general and that judge realized quickly that they had no idea what they were talking about,” she said. “We came to an agreement that everything would be the same, we would modify terms, and that was it. This is where your taxpayer dollars are going, America. Right here: witch hunt after witch hunt.”
Trump lawyer Christopher Kise later piled on in a pointed media statement.
“Despite another flawed and desperate protest by the Attorney General, President Trump is pleased the Court determined the $175 miilion he posted in cash is worth $175 million, and the bond form in use in the New York court system for a century is in fact acceptable,” he said.
Thanks for providing Alina Habba's view of the case. Pretty rich coming from you.
The hearing was to evaluate the bond and void it if Trump and the surety didn't agree to new conditions, which they did. Knight Specialty Insurance Company will retain "exclusive control" of the $175 million account, and the company and Trump will provide a monthly account statement certifying that there are sufficient cash funds for the bond. The Company has agreed to designate an agent for service of process in New York in the event NY has to sue on the bond. And Trumo and the Company agreed that the terms of the bond cannot be amended without notice to the AG and approval of the court. Basic effort to tighten up the terms of the surety in the event NY has to execute its judgment.
All pretty routine fine tuning of an agreement while appeal is pending. But you take Habba's word for it that it was a "waste of taxpayer's money." Sure. Is there anything you aren't in the bag for here?
It wasn't hyped as just "fine tuning" an agreement. It was a request by James to disallow the bond. It should not have required a court hearing & all the hype. It was a media stunt that backfired on James.
Sure it was. And you practiced law, specifically ad a litigator, where? Tell me about your familiarity with bind surety analysis, please.
I know that a Money Market account is a cash account. I have two of them. It was not a brokerage account. Apparently James & the Judge did not recognize the difference.
what spin! The MM account is being held by a brokerage.
Why do these people subjugate themselves to this buffoon? When time and again he just drops a big turd on them afterwards. "Thank you sir may I have another?"
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:29 am
If I thought someone purchasing this particular bible would read it and then realize how their prior slavish following of Trump was antithetical to Christ’s teaching and the 10 Commandments, and convert away from that blasphemous prior choice, then I’d see that as a silver lining to a scam that otherwise preys on the vulnerable. But not a justification for the scam.
However, I think the vast majority of purchases will be from people simply demonstrating their slavish loyalty to the Trump cult. Deepening their commitment to the cult.
It's presumptuous to judge why anyone would purchase any printing of the Bible or to ignore the possibility that the example of someone like Lee Greenwood might prompt the buyer to look inside the cover of The Book & learn more about what's inside. Maybe Lee makes it fashionable & affirming to them. Of course, you've apparently already judged Lee to be a heretic & false prophet. Based on my close personal encounter with him on a USO tour, I don't question his sincerity or his motivations.
You & your fellow travelers in this forum are treading on shaky ground when you presume to know why anyone would purchase a Bible.
Nonsense, OS. They know how everyone thinks and will act, no need to even ask them, they’ll tell you judge mental they are. And yet, Identity politics is their game, it’s just as disgusting.
And that is one of your more disgusting posts to date. So stupidly condescending and pretentious that you have the ‘right’ path to faith, ignoring Christian teachings in the process.
I take faith seriously and it’s incredibly offensive how cavalierly you and Salty defend this blasphemy.
Engage with the actual argument if you disagree, but stop with the gaslighting.
Appreciate you confirming everything.
You only feel that way b/c it is true, and exposes just how judgmental so many have become. The mask has slipped 'as you all like to say' as those with such vitriol towards anyone that does not align with their thinking, agreeing with their POV, especially when it comes to anything remotely surrounding Trump. When others POV differs around here, this is what we continually hear from the Identity-labeling followers .....they must be MAGA or knuckle-draggers, non-educated, poor, rednecks, mask-slipping, Gilead, handmade, etc-etc. Yes, you name-call and practice that which you despise in others....maybe tone it down.
Is your biggest concern that those that may pivot towards a new found Faith via the grifter named Trump, follow a different denomination than that of yours? Seems so, otherwise why get so bent of shape of some bibles hitting the nightstand of those that may otherwise not considered doing so, and in the process understand how our govt actually was intended and designed to work. Heaven forbid we not educate those MAGA, knuckle-dragger, non-educated, poor, rednecks, mask-slipping, Gilead, handmade, etc-etc.
It’s simple outright blasphemy. If you had a shred of honest reflection you’d admit it is.
There’s no criticism of actual Christian faith, simply of idolatry of someone as close to an anti-christ as I pray we will ever witness.
You want to promote Christian “Faith” ( btw, capitalization does not confer credibility, only a false sense of sinful pride), then don’t pollute your promotion with idolatry. Have at it honestly and faithfully.
This grift’s conflation of politics and exclusive claim of supremacist religion is flatly un-American. That’s grotesque in and of itself, but the supersessionist claims of “Faith” are what has so many faithful believers, including Christians, most upset specifically.
If anyone cares, here is the NY Judge's order on the state's request for criminal contempt sanctions. He finds Trump in contempt of court (and I am doubtful there was any way not to do so), and fines the Moron $1,000 per violation or $9,000.
Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:57 am
If anyone cares, here is the NY Judge's order on the state's request for criminal contempt sanctions. He finds Trump in contempt of court (and I am doubtful there was any way not to do so), and fines the Moron $1,000 per violation or $9,000.
Some interesting nuggets in here. And the Judge plainly acting in moderation.
Trump desperately wants to goad any of these Judges to put him in jail........and the photo Op of him sitting in a jail, even if it's for five minutes.
...so he can watch his fans absolutely lose their minds.
Would anyone else be thrown in the can by now for contempt? Yep.
Why would an attorney/prosecutor plead the 5th on every question? Is it b/c it's a congressional hearing and they view it as futile and just bs or is there another reason to avoid answering? Serious question....
Why would an attorney/prosecutor plead the 5th on every question? Is it b/c it's a congressional hearing and they view it as futile and just bs or is there another reason to avoid answering? Serious question....
Are you asking me? Sorry, not a criminal lawyer (and Pomerantz is), and not being compelled to testify against one's self is, you know, a constitutional right.
Why would an attorney/prosecutor plead the 5th on every question? Is it b/c it's a congressional hearing and they view it as futile and just bs or is there another reason to avoid answering? Serious question....
Are you asking me? Sorry, not a criminal lawyer (and Pomerantz is), and not being compelled to testify against one's self is, you know, a constitutional right.
I was. Of course I know its a right, it was more of a "why, in this instance".
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:57 am
If anyone cares, here is the NY Judge's order on the state's request for criminal contempt sanctions. He finds Trump in contempt of court (and I am doubtful there was any way not to do so), and fines the Moron $1,000 per violation or $9,000.
Some interesting nuggets in here. And the Judge plainly acting in moderation.
Trump desperately wants to goad any of these Judges to put him in jail........and the photo Op of him sitting in a jail, even if it's for five minutes.
...so he can watch his fans absolutely lose their minds.
Would anyone else be thrown in the can by now for contempt? Yep.
... will they really lose their minds. We were promised they would take to the street if he was indicted, then we were promised they would take to the streets if he was actually prosecuted in a court of law, then we were promised they would take to the streets if he was found against in court. He even continually tries to get his people to mobilize, take to the streets. It never happens and doesn't seem like it is going to. His crowds at his rallies are smaller than previously.
...what a colossal waste of time ! "Justice" in NY is a joke.
