2024 Pool C

[Laxattackjack]

wondering why the regional rankings haven’t been updated this week. i thought it was supposed to be on monday.

[highbouncerswillgo]

wondering why the regional rankings haven’t been updated this week. i thought it was supposed to be on monday.

They go every Wednesday. 17th, 24th, and 1st

[Low2high22]

Region I
1 Tufts 12-2 12-2
2 Wesleyan (CT) 11-3 11-3
3 Babson 12-3 12-3
4 Endicott 12-1 13-1
5 Bowdoin 10-3 10-3
6 Middlebury 8-6 8-6
7 Amherst 9-5 9-5
Region II In-Division Record Overall Record
1 RIT 15-1 15-1
2 Rensselaer 14-1 14-1
3 St. Lawrence 13-2 13-2
4 Union (NY) 10-3 10-3
5 Cortland 9-4 9-4
6 St. Mary's (MD) 11-4 11-4
7 St. John Fisher 9-6 9-6
Region III In-Division Record Overall Record
1 Salisbury 16-0 16-0
2 Chris. Newport 12-4 12-4
3 Swarthmore 13-1 13-1
4 Dickinson 13-2 13-2
5 Gettysburg 8-6 8-6
6 York (PA) 8-7 8-7
7 Stevens 13-2 13-2
Region IV In-Division Record Overall Record
1 Wash. & Lee 12-3 12-3
2 Lynchburg 10-5 10-5
3 Roanoke 13-3 13-3
4 Grove City 11-4 11-4
5 Hampden-Sydney 11-5 11-5
6 Centre 12-3 12-3
7 Sewanee 10-4 10-4
Region V In-Division Record Overall Record
1 Ohio Wesleyan 10-3 10-3
2 Denison 11-5 11-5
3 Hope 10-3 10-3
4 Kenyon 10-5 10-5
5 Ill. Wesleyan 10-3 10-3
6 Elmhurst 10-3 10-3
7 Colorado Col. 7-5 8-5

[davegaston13]

Region V Lake Forest near Hope and Colorado College. 13-1.

[davegaston13]

Typo Lake Forest beat Hope and Colorado College

[The12lov3]

I think the NESCAC and the Liberty get 5 of the 10 pools C bids with the Liberty getting 3 and the NESCAC getting two (excluding the conference winner). Hard sell for the NESCAC getting 4 this year. Everyone tallked about Bowdoin being so good this year but they have one quality win against Amherst. Liberty this year is the top division for sure.

[Laxattackjack]

I think the NESCAC and the Liberty get 5 of the 10 pools C bids with the Liberty getting 3 and the NESCAC getting two (excluding the conference winner). Hard sell for the NESCAC getting 4 this year. Everyone tallked about Bowdoin being so good this year but they have one quality win against Amherst. Liberty this year is the top division for sure.

i posted in the regional ranking thread that i think LL gets three. NESCAC and Centennial combined with have 5 ODAC will have 2 and CNU gets a spot
Bowdoin is out unless they win the conference

[richard]

Typo Lake Forest beat Hope and Colorado College

Lake Forest is a good example of the guys doing the regional rankings not being thorough. Lake Forest will probably get their AQ but how is it so gd difficult to get things right?

[SKUD]

They are a miss on regional rankings. Are you sure this 5 team conference gets an AQ?

[pcowlax]

They are a miss on regional rankings. Are you sure this 5 team conference gets an AQ?

Can't say I ever pay attention to the Midwest Lacrosse conference but I am now confused with their bid status. They have indeed received an automatic bid for their conference tourney winner the past three years and those years they had 6 (2023), 7 (2022) and 4 (2021) teams. How did a league with 4 teams have an auto-bid? Why do they have one this year with 5 teams? CLC does not with 6 teams (as they should not). Is that just because of how young CLC is as a thrown together group of schools? Is the MLC being grandfathered in (in 2019 and 2020 they had 12 teams)?

[FosterLax3]

What is St. Mary's (MD) doing in Region II with the LL and other NY teams? Surely that is a mistake right? Or is this another example of the NCAA trying to minimize travel costs by making odd groupings?

[Slim]

SMCM is in Region II due to conference affiliation.

[DeepPocket]

They are a miss on regional rankings. Are you sure this 5 team conference gets an AQ?

Can't say I ever pay attention to the Midwest Lacrosse conference but I am now confused with their bid status. They have indeed received an automatic bid for their conference tourney winner the past three years and those years they had 6 (2023), 7 (2022) and 4 (2021) teams. How did a league with 4 teams have an auto-bid? Why do they have one this year with 5 teams? CLC does not with 6 teams (as they should not). Is that just because of how young CLC is as a thrown together group of schools? Is the MLC being grandfathered in (in 2019 and 2020 they had 12 teams)?

Two rules at play.

For those existing conferences who lost participating teams and fell below the 6 team AQ minimum, there is a 2 year grace period, whereby they are still eligible for the AQ so long as they have 4 remaining teams. Using your data the MLC, having had the minimum 6 members last year, will still be eligible for an AQ next year too if still below minimum.

For new conferences, there is a 2 year waiting period before eligible for an AQ. The CLC’s waiting period expires after this year. For the 25’ season they’ll have an AQ.

What is St. Mary's (MD) doing in Region II with the LL and other NY teams? Surely that is a mistake right? Or is this another example of the NCAA trying to minimize travel costs by making odd groupings?

The Regions are done by conference. https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champi ... gnment.pdf

[pcowlax]

They are a miss on regional rankings. Are you sure this 5 team conference gets an AQ?

Can't say I ever pay attention to the Midwest Lacrosse conference but I am now confused with their bid status. They have indeed received an automatic bid for their conference tourney winner the past three years and those years they had 6 (2023), 7 (2022) and 4 (2021) teams. How did a league with 4 teams have an auto-bid? Why do they have one this year with 5 teams? CLC does not with 6 teams (as they should not). Is that just because of how young CLC is as a thrown together group of schools? Is the MLC being grandfathered in (in 2019 and 2020 they had 12 teams)?

Two rules at play.

For those existing conferences who lost participating teams, there is a 2 year grace period, whereby they are still eligible for the AQ so long as a minimum 4 participating teams remain.

For new conferences, there is a 2 year waiting period before eligible for an AQ. The CLC’s waiting period expires after this year. For the 25’ season they’ll have an AQ.

What is St. Mary's (MD) doing in Region II with the LL and other NY teams? Surely that is a mistake right? Or is this another example of the NCAA trying to minimize travel costs by making odd groupings?

The Regions are done by conference. https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champi ... gnment.pdf

Thanks DP. So how does that play out with a league like the Midwest, which seems to be vacillating up and down. They were down to 4 in 2021 (so should have entered the 2 year grace period) but then went back to 7 and then 6. So, it would then have reset because they went back to at least 6? And now once down to 5 again this is the first year of a second grace period?

[DeepPocket]

So, it would then have reset because they went back to at least 6? And now once down to 5 again this is the first year of a second grace period?

Correct.

[davegaston13]

MLC winner has an AQ this year, there are 5 teams. Two teams are ending Lacrosse after this year. 3 teams are moving to the NACC next year. NACC will be 13 strong next year.

[SKUD]

https://www.div3lax.com/april-25_d3-bracketology.html

[richard]

re Lake Forest. I think that no matter the situation with their conference they should be included in the rankings. Like Salisbury if they can’t qualify for an AQ they would be in line for a pool B and Salisbury is included in the regional rankings. Obviously Lake Forest won’t beat bury for the B. But the point needs to be made.

[Laxattackjack]

https://www.div3lax.com/april-25_d3-bracketology.html

i saw this. not buying it. no way Ohio Wesleyan with 2 regional wins, is getting in over Roanoke (4 regional wins) and Gettysburg (3 regionals )

[SKUD]

I hear you. Do they regionalize it for those “western” teams and get them a bid they don’t deserve based on the softness of the region?