Israel and Zionism

[cradleandshoot]

A difference with no distinction. Any of you FLP chuckle heads on this forum have an explanation as to why the DF students??? At Columbia are shouting DEATH TO ISRAEL?? Any explanation as to why the people in charge of this antisemitism at Columbia are " oblivious" to what is being presented in front of their own faces. You have people/ students shouting " DEATH TO ISRAEL" We desperately need MD lax to dig into his non existent lifelong Republican conservative chops to define this bullchit. I already know that DEATH TO REPUBLICANS is your objective. Any lifelong Republican as a myopic and pimple faced teenager who was supporter of Richard Nixon has forever lost any credibility in the real world of politics. The ying to this yang revolves around all those FLP NYC Democrats who gave all of those Walenskies to the trump they loved and admired when he was cutting checks to the liberal establishment in NYC.. You lib turds forget how much you forget how much you loved trump before you hated him.

[OCanada]

The question seems to me which party occupies the more morally correct position rather than which side has the greater “native” numbers.

[cradleandshoot]

It looks like there is a whole new generation of college students picking up the torch handed to them from their 1960s elders. While they protest, intimidate Jewish students and make a nuisance of themselves there is likely an increasing # of alums who may keep their checkbooks in the desk drawer than donate to their alma matter. Biting off your nose to spite your face. There is nothing wrong with a good protest. When you try to become occupy Wall St version 2 the movement winds up doing more harm than good. Time will tell how this all plays out. I do know that Bibi could care less about these protest. He has a war to fight. A good plan of action might be abandoning the campus protests and organize a massive protest that ends at the US Capitol.

As many commentators note, the current students are not the entirety of the institution. Alum donations do not generally immediately impact O&M.

Now, long term reduction in capital funding can have profound impacts. However, I’d be willing to wager these protestors don’t particularly care about the future of an institution they regard as acting in a feckless and immoral manner.

But they are pitching camp at Columbia. Those Columbia alum must be thrilled to death at the prospect of contributing to this idiocy. They must be overjoyed at explaining why their own students are chanting lustily DEATH TO ISRAEL. As I said before, Adolph Hitler would have beamed with pride having these young skulls full of mush on his side. It's like in their minds October 7th was nothing more than a justifiable attack on an oppressive regime. Every Israeli child murdered and every hostage taken and subsequently executed by Hamas is now the fault of Israel. I shouldn't be surprised reading every single day the ignorance and stupidity of the usual suspects on this forum. I'm sure most of you DFs also hold Israel responsible for what Hamas did on October 7. Damn those Jew mother effers for making Hamas have to murder all those Jews and hold them hostage. What other choice did they have?? As this story evolves Hamas is now the hero and Israel is now conducting genocide. None of you DFs even question the morality of why those very brave Hamas cowards are too chicken chit to take their fight strait up to the Israeli army. These effing cowards hide in tunnels below hospitals and schools and intertwine themselves into the Palestinian people and point fingers at stupid, gullible people that exist on this forum when they scream GENOCIDE!!! I have to give credit where credit is due. They have done due diligence in understanding who their target audience is. Their target audience responds exactly as they knew they would. What potential audience could possibly be more gullible and stupid than the student body at Columbia?

Young skulls full of mush that are easily manipulated. If your a FLP liberal it's like shootin fish in a barrel.

[youthathletics]

Columbia's finest lending a hand: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1783167266882019690

[cradleandshoot]

Columbia's finest lending a hand: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1783167266882019690

So it is not a stretch to say these students at Columbia are clueless? Your gonna pitch a tent and protest and you have no idea what it is your protesting. Par for the course on many college campuses in America. Are they burning their draft cards as well?? Ahhh the 60s revisited with outdoor tents ordered online from LL Bean. What Columbia should have done was turn on the sprinklers and let em run 24/7. These younguns should be allowed to fully experience the joy of tent camping in the rain.
I did a lot of tent camping in my day. Having GrubHub deliver a Starbucks Latte to my tent with a vegan bagel with cream cheese was never an option. I guess their still ruffin it though... DEATH TO ISRAEL is their battle cry. Now if they are still camped out in November can they vote via absentee ballot?

[cradleandshoot]

DEATH TO ISRAEL!!! That is the rallying cry along college campuses today. It's is like these DF college students have completely forgotten about what happened on October 7. Actually they haven't forgotten. They have come to realize that Israel is responsible for the Hamas attack. So Israel is suppose pay attention to the disgruntled rich privileged predominately white FLP spoiled ass chitbirds that have discovered the joy of pitching tents instead of going to class. Maybe if any of them study American history they can research what William T Sherman meant when he said " war is hell" :roll

" Whether we succeed or fail in our military objectives, everybody loses a lot, even those who live through it" This shouldn't come as a surprise to some of you folks. This has been the reality of war for thousands of years. So suddenly you all expect that to change because y'all can't grasp what the concept of war means.

So long as Hamas is determined to remain imbedded in the safety of hiding behind the skirts of the Palestinian people then the Palestinians will continue to die. Nobody asks why Hamas has embraced these tactics. If they want to fight the Jews then come on out of hiding and fight the Jews. The only realistic conclusion to be made is that Hamas is comprised of a bunch of cowards. Hamas chose to pick this fight, if a fight is what they wanted then stand and fight.

[cradleandshoot]

I found there is a label to identify these pro Palestinian college students... ALL ONE THINGISM...

[old salt]

Campus pogroms.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/ ... ght-again/

‘Pogrom’ is an accurate description of what we’re seeing on campuses.

The Russian word “pogrom” refers to an organized effort to displace Jewish populations from the spaces in which they reside by force. That is precisely what we’ve seen on far too many college campuses since the October 7 attack.

That’s what we saw at Cooper Union, where a braying mob of what we’ve been assured are only anti-Israel protesters threw themselves at the doors of a library in which a handful of Jewish students took refuge. Chanting “globalize the intifada,” in reference to the outbreaks of violence that targeted Israeli civilians with murder, the demonstrators terrorized their Jewish colleagues and compelled them to evacuate their refuge under guard. The Jewish students are suing their school for “being locked in a campus library to shield them from an unruly mob of students that was calling for the destruction of Israel and worldwide violence against Jews.”

Similar language could be used to describe the successful effort to scare Jews away from campus facilities at Cornell University. Following an outbreak of threats to “shoot up,” rape, and slash the throats of Jewish students on campus by pseudonymous harassers calling themselves “hamas,” “jew evil,” “jew jenocide,” “hamas warrior,” and “kill jews,” the school threw up its hands. Cornell advised its Jewish matriculants to avoid the campus’s Kosher dining hall lest they risk bodily harm. Of course, those students heeded their school’s warning.

“What shocked me the most,” said one witness to Rutgers University’s conciliatory attitude toward its agitated pro-Hamas contingent, “was the fact that the Jews attending the town hall were escorted out by police, not the individuals protesting and breaking the rules.” The event that so enraged the anti-Jewish protesters was only a banal effort by university president Jonathan Holloway to hold an event in which students could ask questions about the war in Gaza and the school’s approach to it. “Before he was able to answer a single one, anti-Israel protesters unleashed chaos,” Zach Kessel reported for NR.

And at Columbia, host to the recent spasm of anti-Jewish sentiment..., the threat of violent antisemitism has forced many Jewish students off campus. The activists who called Jews “inbred,” demanded they “go back to Poland,” and chanted “Burn Tel Aviv to the ground” and “Go Hamas, we love you, we support your rockets, too” somehow managed to convince their Jewish colleagues that they meant business. Columbia administrators appeared to agree. It facilitated their flight to the shadows by moving classes to a “hybrid” setting so Jews could continue to study out of the sight of their tormentors.

These and many more incidents like them suggest the rabble’s aim is to harass and intimidate Jews into hiding. The college administrations that have catered to this mob have assisted in the evacuation of their Jewish populations to safer redoubts. We can call this many things, but Russian linguists already provided us with one descriptive word for it. It’s a fine word, and its use in this context is woefully appropriate.

[cradleandshoot]

So the number of colleges canceling their graduation ceremonies because of safety concerns is increasing every day. The inmates are running the asylum on college campuses... DEPLORABLE!!!

[NattyBohChamps04]

Amazing how much attention is being paid to a few dozen to maybe a few hundred protestors camping our or sitting in at a handful of colleges. Governors calling for riot police, national guard, etc.

Wonder what the end game of the people in charge of the response is? Lots of provocation.

Wonder what the purpose of giving them that much attention is? It certainly is a distraction in an election year.

Half of the people arrested in Texas weren't students. Wonder who else is trying to foment unrest here.

[MDlaxfan76]

Amazing how much attention is being paid to a few dozen to maybe a few hundred protestors camping our or sitting in at a handful of colleges. Governors calling for riot police, national guard, etc.

Wonder what the end game of the people in charge of the response is? Lots of provocation.

Wonder what the purpose of giving them that much attention is? It certainly is a distraction in an election year.

Half of the people arrested in Texas weren't students. Wonder who else is trying to foment unrest here.

That's important to fully understand.

[OCanada]

The Columbia student paper’s editors were surprised the media were presenting as fact what they had not seen. They said the campus itself was pretty quiet until the police cane in. They also noted there was significant group of non-university members involved. I expect a quick look at Boards and donors might offer more clarity.

[jhu72]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these demonstrations will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even 4 year colleges and universities. Just like the 60 / 70s, the college administrators are handling the entire situation wrong!

[Typical Lax Dad]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even colleges and universities.

Exactly what it is. You have Israeli protestors in Israel. The use of the language “pro Hamas” or Antisemitism is purposely used. Was out to dinner with two Jewish friends. They can’t stand Netanyahu and believes he needs to go.

[jhu72]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even colleges and universities.

Exactly what it is. You have Israeli protestors in Israel. The use of the language “pro Hamas” or Antisemitism is purposely used. Was out to dinner with two Jewish friends. They can’t stand Netanyahu and believes he needs to go.

Large fraction of the protestors are Jewish.

This is also for many of these young protestors a 1st Amendment demonstration, the police on campus make the situation worse. Dumb ass administrators and police just making the situation worse.

[PizzaSnake]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even colleges and universities.

Exactly what it is. You have Israeli protestors in Israel. The use of the language “pro Hamas” or Antisemitism is purposely used. Was out to dinner with two Jewish friends. They can’t stand Netanyahu and believes he needs to go.

Large fraction of the protestors are Jewish.

This is also for many of these young protestors a 1st Amendment demonstration, the police on campus make the situation worse. Dumb ass administrators and police just making the situation worse.

[cradleandshoot]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even colleges and universities.

Exactly what it is. You have Israeli protestors in Israel. The use of the language “pro Hamas” or Antisemitism is purposely used. Was out to dinner with two Jewish friends. They can’t stand Netanyahu and believes he needs to go.

Large fraction of the protestors are Jewish.

This is also for many of these young protestors a 1st Amendment demonstration, the police on campus make the situation worse. Dumb ass administrators and police just making the situation worse.

DEATH TO ISRAEL...

[youthathletics]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these demonstrations will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even 4 year colleges and universities. Just like the 60 / 70s, the college administrators are handling the entire situation wrong!

You are a very poor judge of character, if you think I want violence. Your comment says far more about your inability to read people....even after close to a decade of sharing stories and commentary on these boards. Do better.

[cradleandshoot]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these demonstrations will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even 4 year colleges and universities. Just like the 60 / 70s, the college administrators are handling the entire situation wrong!

You are a very poor judge of character, if you think I want violence. Your comment says far more about your inability to read people....even after close to a decade of sharing stories and commentary on these boards. Do better.

As the Hamas terrorists like to say.... DEATH TO ISRAEL I guess the violence is implied in the frequently heard refrain on college campuses. And right on cue Doc 72 is trying pass the blame on the Republicans. There is a whole lotta blame to be heaped on Republicans but this ain't one of them.

[NattyBohChamps04]

Right wing propagandist wet dreams. YA and friends want these to be violent protests. Even the police are saying these are largely peaceful protests. These are also mislabeled by the right-wing media as "pro-Hamas", or "antisemitic". What they are is "anti-Israeli government". Yes a few "pro-Hamas" extremists are mixed in. Those who think these demonstrations will go away quickly are wrong; they are also wrong in thinking it is confined to "elite campuses" or even 4 year colleges and universities. Just like the 60 / 70s, the college administrators are handling the entire situation wrong!

You are a very poor judge of character, if you think I want violence. Your comment says far more about your inability to read people....even after close to a decade of sharing stories and commentary on these boards. Do better.

As the Hamas terrorists like to say.... DEATH TO ISRAEL I guess the violence is implied in the frequently heard refrain on college campuses. And right on cue Doc 72 is trying pass the blame on the Republicans. There is a whole lotta blame to be heaped on Republicans but this ain't one of them.

Wonder how many Israeli civilians have been killed vs. Palestinian civilians? Seems like a whole lot more DEATH going on at the hands of one side at the moment. A lot of Israelis calling for DEATH as well.

Obviously we should advocate for peace on both sides.