2024 top 20

[coda]

The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177

Cuse makes no sense at 8

[Finster]

The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177

Cuse makes no sense at 8

Should be higher or lower?

[coda]

The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177

Cuse makes no sense at 8

Should be higher or lower?

Higher.. They have head to head over UVa and a higher RPI

[HopFan16]

The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177

Cuse makes no sense at 8

Should be higher or lower?

Higher.. They have head to head over UVa and a higher RPI

That ranking was made before Saturday's games. Was released during the Cuse-UVA game.

[coda]

The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177

Cuse makes no sense at 8

Should be higher or lower?

Higher.. They have head to head over UVa and a higher RPI

That ranking was made before Saturday's games. Was released during the Cuse-UVA game.

OK, that explains it

[joewillie78]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

[BigTurn]

ND all but locked up the 1 seed today.

[coda]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

UVa is so tough. While I think they are a top 6 team, I also think they should be out of the tournament if they lose their next game and end on a 4 game losing streak

[joewillie78]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

UVa is so tough. While I think they are a top 6 team, I also think they should be out of the tournament if they lose their next game and end on a 4 game losing streak

I would be curious to know which is the last AT LARGE team to make the tournament while LOSING their last 4 games?

Gobigred
Joewillie78

[keno in reno]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

[norcalhop]

this is one of the strangest seasons i can recall

[coda]

this is one of the strangest seasons i can recall

It’s really is. Why I think the tournament selection could be real interesting. Seems like a lot of teams are a loss away from the bubble

[mdk01]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

Earned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?

[keno in reno]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

Earned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?

If you think there is a perfect equation, please provide it
Cornell lost a game 20-9; what other top 8 team has lost a game like that? They beat Syracuse at home 3 days after Cuse played Notre Dame; that's as fortunate scheduling as it gets.

#9 was Maryland early in the season. Ok. Syracuse sure looks better than Maryland right now, but that could just be optics.

Denver is #3. Their 1 in a million comeback against JHU in February is the difference between being ranked 3 and 13 now. Everyone who watched the game would say JHU was the dominant team, but ok again.

So it comes back to the question of Syracuse at #5. They ain't great, but they've played a lot harder schedule than many other teams in the same ranking discussion (albeit a ton of home games), and they've had top wins. #5 is about right, and Denver and PSU should easily be ranked below them.

[DMV_Guy]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

UVA just dropped three straight games, including one to Notre Dame - who Georgetown actually beat - and an absolute spanking by Duke. But yes, sure, tHeY wIlL dEsTrOy ThEm. Your issue seems to be that even the good teams have lost multiple games this year, and it’s hard for your pea brain to accept that. In reality, there’s more parity this year than in many years past, and that’s a good thing. You can’t say that Duke/MD/UVA are head and shoulders above Denver/Cornell/PSU. They’ve all lost games to varying opponents, and it’s not that obvious to me where anyone should stand - there are all sorts of arguments to be made for everyone. Regardless, the tournament you’ve described sounds like an unreal lineup of games. Any team in the top 10 could make a run this year, and that’s exciting. If you can’t see and appreciate that, then you’re a Bona fide hater. I honestly respect that sort of dedication to hating - Silky Johnson would be proud.

[Lager]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

Earned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?

If you think there is a perfect equation, please provide it
Cornell lost a game 20-9; what other top 8 team has lost a game like that? They beat Syracuse at home 3 days after Cuse played Notre Dame; that's as fortunate scheduling as it gets.

#9 was Maryland early in the season. Ok. Syracuse sure looks better than Maryland right now, but that could just be optics.

Denver is #3. Their 1 in a million comeback against JHU in February is the difference between being ranked 3 and 13 now. Everyone who watched the game would say JHU was the dominant team, but ok again.

So it comes back to the question of Syracuse at #5. They ain't great, but they've played a lot harder schedule than many other teams in the same ranking discussion (albeit a ton of home games), and they've had top wins. #5 is about right, and Denver and PSU should easily be ranked below them.

Cornell was coming off relatively short rest as well. Cornell's FO guy is hurt and cuse won all the face offs and STILL lost. Cornell also outplayed the unanimous #1 team, ND was lucky to win that game.

[DocBarrister]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

UVA just dropped three straight games, including one to Notre Dame - who Georgetown actually beat - and an absolute spanking by Duke. But yes, sure, tHeY wIlL dEsTrOy ThEm. Your issue seems to be that even the good teams have lost multiple games this year, and it’s hard for your pea brain to accept that. In reality, there’s more parity this year than in many years past, and that’s a good thing. You can’t say that Duke/MD/UVA are head and shoulders above Denver/Cornell/PSU. They’ve all lost games to varying opponents, and it’s not that obvious to me where anyone should stand - there are all sorts of arguments to be made for everyone. Regardless, the tournament you’ve described sounds like an unreal lineup of games. Any team in the top 10 could make a run this year, and that’s exciting. If you can’t see and appreciate that, then you’re a Bona fide hater. I honestly respect that sort of dedication to hating - Silky Johnson would be proud.

Virginia’s best wins are probably those against MD, Michigan, Towson, and North Carolina. Good, but not spectacular.

Their only losses are to Johns Hopkins, ND, Duke, and SU … which just happen to be the top four RPI teams.

Plus, #2 SOS and #6 RPI.

Virginia is an NCAA tournament team right now, and will likely be in even if they lose their next game. But that is not a sure thing.

DocBarrister

[keno in reno]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

it’s hard for your pea brain to accept that

What?

[10stone5]

My new Top 20 4-27-2024.

My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:

1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina

Gobigred
Joewillie78

PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).

I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA

Earned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?

If you think there is a perfect equation, please provide it
Cornell lost a game 20-9; what other top 8 team has lost a game like that? They beat Syracuse at home 3 days after Cuse played Notre Dame; that's as fortunate scheduling as it gets.

#9 was Maryland early in the season. Ok. Syracuse sure looks better than Maryland right now, but that could just be optics.

Denver is #3. Their 1 in a million comeback against JHU in February is the difference between being ranked 3 and 13 now. Everyone who watched the game would say JHU was the dominant team, but ok again.

So it comes back to the question of Syracuse at #5. They ain't great, but they've played a lot harder schedule than many other teams in the same ranking discussion (albeit a ton of home games), and they've had top wins. #5 is about right, and Denver and PSU should easily be ranked below them.

Cornell was coming off relatively short rest as well. Cornell's FO guy is hurt and cuse won all the face offs and STILL lost. Cornell also outplayed the unanimous #1 team, ND was lucky to win that game.

That was my thinking,

on the Cornell ND game,

in fact - this is looking more and more to me like the Finals match up, pending the Ivy tournament outcome.

[norcalhop]

Penn State is the most underrated team at the moment. I think they can win it all potentially.