2024 Women’s Tewaaraton Watch List

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The Twenty Five

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25 women’s nominees:

Meghan Ball, Maryland – Grad. Student, Defense
Sydni Black, Loyola – Sr., Attack
Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Maddie Burns, Michigan – Sr., Defense
Kasey Choma, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Midfield
Rachel Clark, Boston College – Jr., Attack
Erin Coykendall, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Katie DeSimone, Duke – Sr., Attack
Katie Goodale, Syracuse – Sr., Defense
Emily Heller, Florida – Grad. Student, Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Trinity McPherson, Denver – Grad. Student, Defense
Emily Nalls, North Carolina – Grad. Student, Defense
Erin O’Grady, Michigan – Jr., Goalie
Isabella Peterson, James Madison – Sr., Attack
Sydney Scales, Boston College – Sr., Defense
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Morgan Schwab, Virginia – Sr., Attack
Belle Smith, Boston College – Sr., Midfield
Jill Smith, Michigan – Jr., Attack
Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers – Grad. Student, Midfield
Emily Sterling, Maryland – Grad. Student, Goalie
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse – Grad. Student, Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

The 2024 Tewaaraton Watch Lists were first unveiled Feb. 18, with additions announced March 7 and March 28. The five men’s and five women’s finalists will be announced May 9 and will be invited to the Tewaaraton Award Ceremony in Washington, D.C., on May 30.
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:37 pm 25 women’s nominees:

Meghan Ball, Maryland – Grad. Student, Defense
Sydni Black, Loyola – Sr., Attack
Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Maddie Burns, Michigan – Sr., Defense
Kasey Choma, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Midfield
Rachel Clark, Boston College – Jr., Attack
Erin Coykendall, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Katie DeSimone, Duke – Sr., Attack
Katie Goodale, Syracuse – Sr., Defense
Emily Heller, Florida – Grad. Student, Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Trinity McPherson, Denver – Grad. Student, Defense
Emily Nalls, North Carolina – Grad. Student, Defense
Erin O’Grady, Michigan – Jr., Goalie
Isabella Peterson, James Madison – Sr., Attack
Sydney Scales, Boston College – Sr., Defense
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Morgan Schwab, Virginia – Sr., Attack
Belle Smith, Boston College – Sr., Midfield
Jill Smith, Michigan – Jr., Attack
Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers – Grad. Student, Midfield
Emily Sterling, Maryland – Grad. Student, Goalie
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse – Grad. Student, Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

The 2024 Tewaaraton Watch Lists were first unveiled Feb. 18, with additions announced March 7 and March 28. The five men’s and five women’s finalists will be announced May 9 and will be invited to the Tewaaraton Award Ceremony in Washington, D.C., on May 30.
Cuse goalie goes from pre season goalie of the year to not even a mention in tewey top 25. Wow
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Slightly off topic does anyone know if Betty Nelson is injured? Was looking for her to be a breakout freshman this season...
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Madlax59 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:40 pm Cuse goalie goes from pre season goalie of the year to not even a mention in tewey top 25. Wow
Just another example of the value of pre-season polls, pre-season AAs, pre-season Tewey lists, etc., eh?
Meaningless nonsense.
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laxinallthetime wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:43 pm Slightly off topic does anyone know if Betty Nelson is injured? Was looking for her to be a breakout freshman this season...
I’m not sure right now, she is always in uniform mostly. Early in the season, she never cracked the GK battle and now Harrison looking better than Nicholas, I think she just isn’t trusted yet.
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laxinallthetime wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:43 pm Slightly off topic does anyone know if Betty Nelson is injured? Was looking for her to be a breakout freshman this season...
I’m not sure right now, she is always in uniform mostly. Early in the season, she never cracked the GK battle and now Harrison looking better than Nicholas, I think she just isn’t trusted yet.
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Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
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Yet USA lacrosse magazine had Taylor in second team.
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njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Once again defenders get screwed! You can’t tell me there isn’t one defender that deserves to be on this list.
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njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Huh, thought Masera was predominantly an attacker....
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PlayNice wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:46 pm
njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Once again defenders get screwed! You can’t tell me there isn’t one defender that deserves to be on this list.
Scales.....
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laxfan9999 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:41 pm Yet USA lacrosse magazine had Taylor in second team.
USA lacrosse magazine is a joke
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:D
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:46 pm
njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Huh, thought Masera was predominantly an attacker....
Sad that Spallina gets away with calling Masera an attacker. It is misrepresentation and a lie. She never crosses the restraining line. Go watch any recent games like vs. Stanford. Her caused turnovers tells you what position she plays. Certainly no role on defense. Perhaps she made it as an attacker. Boyle is a 2 way middy so good for her.
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Lax101 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:07 pm :D
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:46 pm
njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Huh, thought Masera was predominantly an attacker....
Sad that Spallina gets away with calling Masera an attacker. It is misrepresentation and a lie. She never crosses the restraining line. Go watch any recent games like vs. Stanford. Her caused turnovers tells you what position she plays. Certainly no role on defense. Perhaps she made it as an attacker. Boyle is a 2 way middy so good for her.
Easier to win awards as a middle than an attacker, too many good attackers. Sad part is she might have gotten Tewey 5 as an attacker, But as a middle she can get all the accolades...much easier...Joe is smart


Also I always wondered - does committee just look at stats and social media hype? Do they watch any actual games or just highlights?
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Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:15 pm
Lax101 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:07 pm :D
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:46 pm
njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Huh, thought Masera was predominantly an attacker....
Sad that Spallina gets away with calling Masera an attacker. It is misrepresentation and a lie. She never crosses the restraining line. Go watch any recent games like vs. Stanford. Her caused turnovers tells you what position she plays. Certainly no role on defense. Perhaps she made it as an attacker. Boyle is a 2 way middy so good for her.
Easier to win awards as a middle than an attacker, too many good attackers. Sad part is she might have gotten Tewey 5 as an attacker, But as a middle she can get all the accolades...much easier...Joe is smart


Also I always wondered - does committee just look at stats and social media hype? Do they watch any actual games or just highlights?
Smart is not the word I would use in this case.
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Lax101 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 8:07 pm
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:15 pm
Lax101 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:07 pm :D
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:46 pm
njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Huh, thought Masera was predominantly an attacker....
Sad that Spallina gets away with calling Masera an attacker. It is misrepresentation and a lie. She never crosses the restraining line. Go watch any recent games like vs. Stanford. Her caused turnovers tells you what position she plays. Certainly no role on defense. Perhaps she made it as an attacker. Boyle is a 2 way middy so good for her.
Easier to win awards as a middle than an attacker, too many good attackers. Sad part is she might have gotten Tewey 5 as an attacker, But as a middle she can get all the accolades...much easier...Joe is smart


Also I always wondered - does committee just look at stats and social media hype? Do they watch any actual games or just highlights?
Smart is not the word I would use in this case.
"smart" like P.T Barnum...
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Lax101 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 8:07 pm
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:15 pm
Lax101 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 5:07 pm :D
Madlax59 wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:46 pm
njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 4:15 pm Finalists announced:

Chase Boyle, Loyola – Jr., Midfield
Ellie Masera, Stony Brook – Sr., Midfield
Izzy Scane, Northwestern – Grad. Student, Attack
Madison Taylor, Northwestern – Soph., Attack
Jackie Wolak, Notre Dame – Grad. Student, Attack

https://tewaaraton.com/finalists/

Two Jersey girls!!!
Huh, thought Masera was predominantly an attacker....
Sad that Spallina gets away with calling Masera an attacker. It is misrepresentation and a lie. She never crosses the restraining line. Go watch any recent games like vs. Stanford. Her caused turnovers tells you what position she plays. Certainly no role on defense. Perhaps she made it as an attacker. Boyle is a 2 way middy so good for her.
Easier to win awards as a middle than an attacker, too many good attackers. Sad part is she might have gotten Tewey 5 as an attacker, But as a middle she can get all the accolades...much easier...Joe is smart


Also I always wondered - does committee just look at stats and social media hype? Do they watch any actual games or just highlights?
Smart is not the word I would use in this case.
That's straight up lying. Calling a player that takes the draw and plays offense a midfielder is a complete falsification. I feel like a defender who takes the draw (or defenders in general) are more like midfielders. There are some very talented true midfielders that are overlooked. It's insulting to player to label her something that she is not. Nothing wrong with being an attacker.
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I’m not understanding the significance of the classification or misclassification of a player as a midfielder if she primarily or even exclusively plays attack. What does that have to do with her being named by the committee as a finalist? Certainly they focused on her play on the field and not whether there is an A or an M by her name on the roster.
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njbill wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 9:02 pm I’m not understanding the significance of the classification or misclassification of a player as a midfielder if she primarily or even exclusively plays attack. What does that have to do with her being named by the committee as a finalist? Certainly they focused on her play on the field and not whether there is an A or an M by her name on the roster.
The significance is in the past few years there has been a marked increase in attackers being top 5 or winning the award. Im sure one of the criteria the committee looks at are stats. If you are labeled a middle but really play as an attack you will put up different numbers.
When it comes to awards like MOY shouldn't a true midfielder win it? First team AA, etc., same thing.
Masera is a very good player. Really good in draw circle. But if you are playing 95% time as an attacker thats how you should be classified. IMO
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I understand why the classification may make a difference for All American lists where there are limitations on the number of slots per position, but I don’t see how the classification (or misclassification if you will) impacts the Tewaaraton. I think the committee would have named Masera a finalist even if she was designated as an attacker.

Not directly on point, but I see hundreds of classifications of high school players each year: defender, attacker, draw specialist, goalie, midfielder, etc. Lots of players include midfielder in their designations. I think everybody understands that that goes on, and no one pays much mind to it. I certainly don’t.
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