NESCAC

[jumpman23]

Trinity will not receive any votes because they're considered a second-tier team. Their recent losses to Williams, Tufts, and Bowdoin were decisive, and they also fell to Skidmore. Their overtime win over Wesleyan, Clarke, West Conn, and Scranton is unlikely to boost their ranking and earn them any consideration for votes. Not unless they have a great finish to the season, then we can talk about votes. The upcoming games against Middlebury and Amherst will be telling. Let’s be honest, Tarnow hasn't been able to elevate Trinity to the top of NESCAC in the past five years, with a win percentage below 45%. They haven't played any legitimate out-of-conference teams like most of the NESCAC teams do. If this trend continues, there are rumors JT might be gone after this year. Parents and alumni not happy with him and how he goes about running a program. Some coaches just can’t figure it out year after year. We will see if he is one of those coaches over the next couple of weeks. If he loses both games, then that answers the question. On another note, Bill Mason from Bowdoin is the real deal; he is running a very successful program and in only his third year completely turned Bowdoin around. They were like Trinity at the bottom most of the time, but he got them into the top four every year since arriving. He is doing it at a less athletic friendly school and up in Maine.Now that is impressive!

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves with Trin and top 20 but a first round Cac tourney win would not be a surprise at all. They have proven that thus far. Mason seems to have his Bowdoin squad on track after a couple oops games OOC where they looked feeble. Credit to him for the past few years in the field, yes, but other than the first-years, aren’t all other players the prior coach’s recruits? Feels like Amherst is ready to roll the rest of the season and I guess we find out tonight. The 5 to 8 tourney seed race is gonna be thrilling!

[choochooCharlie]

Big one today in Bowdoin Amherst. Who ya got?

[slippinjimmy]

Big one today in Bowdoin Amherst. Who ya got?

Bowdoin by 5 over here. This one should be a clean win for Bowdoin, but I could also see Amherst getting a gritty win.

[callaxdad]

Trinity will not receive any votes because they're considered a second-tier team. Their recent losses to Williams, Tufts, and Bowdoin were decisive, and they also fell to Skidmore. Their overtime win over Wesleyan, Clarke, West Conn, and Scranton is unlikely to boost their ranking and earn them any consideration for votes. Not unless they have a great finish to the season, then we can talk about votes. The upcoming games against Middlebury and Amherst will be telling. Let’s be honest, Tarnow hasn't been able to elevate Trinity to the top of NESCAC in the past five years, with a win percentage below 45%. They haven't played any legitimate out-of-conference teams like most of the NESCAC teams do. If this trend continues, there are rumors JT might be gone after this year. Parents and alumni not happy with him and how he goes about running a program. Some coaches just can’t figure it out year after year. We will see if he is one of those coaches over the next couple of weeks. If he loses both games, then that answers the question. On another note, Bill Mason from Bowdoin is the real deal; he is running a very successful program and in only his third year completely turned Bowdoin around. They were like Trinity at the bottom most of the time, but he got them into the top four every year since arriving. He is doing it at a less athletic friendly school and up in Maine.Now that is impressive!

Yes, back to lacrosse! nelaxman, I will echo your remarks regarding Mason, he is the real deal. I know a few Bowdoin parents and they love the guy. Players love the guy! Very enthusiastic is a common refrain. They are the class of the CAC right now….that could change on 4/24! Big game tonight that was rescheduled due to weather, looking forward to watching the Bos final two league foes!! So far a very fun season….when we can keep it to lax!!

[D3LaxFan2]

They are the class of the CAC right now

C'mon now. Tufts has won like 1000 NESCAC championships in a row. One mid-week slip up (which seems to happen every year for Tufts) does not remove their crown.

[callaxdad]

Big one today in Bowdoin Amherst. Who ya got?

Bowdoin by 5 over here. This one should be a clean win for Bowdoin, but I could also see Amherst getting a gritty win.

slipJ, if I were a bettin man and the line was -5 I think I would lay the points. Nothing against Amherst but Bowdoin looks to be the class of the CAC right now. Lookin forward to this one!!

[callaxdad]

They are the class of the CAC right now

C'mon now. Tufts has won like 1000 NESCAC championships in a row. One mid-week slip up (which seems to happen every year for Tufts) does not remove their crown.

I agree, they still wear the crown but, heavy is the head!!

Bowdoin looks really tough from what little I’ve actually seen. Looking forward to 4/24, we shall see if Wes was a mid-week slip up as you say. I tend to agree with that, but, we shall see…. Fun stuff!!

[SKUD]

We will have a good read on Amherst after 2 top 10 team in 3 days!

Correction: 3 Top 10 teams in 6 days!

Bowdoin-RPI-Tufts

[BallHunt]

Amherst D is good but misses things occasionally, and Bowdoin offense with a lot of seniors and chemistry will take advantage. Bowdoin man D is solid. Face off dot might be even. Keepers too. Taking the Polar Bears by 4.

[NNELax]

Trinity will not receive any votes because they're considered a second-tier team. Their recent losses to Williams, Tufts, and Bowdoin were decisive, and they also fell to Skidmore. Their overtime win over Wesleyan, Clarke, West Conn, and Scranton is unlikely to boost their ranking and earn them any consideration for votes. Not unless they have a great finish to the season, then we can talk about votes. The upcoming games against Middlebury and Amherst will be telling. Let’s be honest, Tarnow hasn't been able to elevate Trinity to the top of NESCAC in the past five years, with a win percentage below 45%. They haven't played any legitimate out-of-conference teams like most of the NESCAC teams do. If this trend continues, there are rumors JT might be gone after this year. Parents and alumni not happy with him and how he goes about running a program. Some coaches just can’t figure it out year after year. We will see if he is one of those coaches over the next couple of weeks. If he loses both games, then that answers the question. On another note, Bill Mason from Bowdoin is the real deal; he is running a very successful program and in only his third year completely turned Bowdoin around. They were like Trinity at the bottom most of the time, but he got them into the top four every year since arriving. He is doing it at a less athletic friendly school and up in Maine.Now that is impressive!

This is a very good analysis. +1

[callaxdad]

Trinity will not receive any votes because they're considered a second-tier team. Their recent losses to Williams, Tufts, and Bowdoin were decisive, and they also fell to Skidmore. Their overtime win over Wesleyan, Clarke, West Conn, and Scranton is unlikely to boost their ranking and earn them any consideration for votes. Not unless they have a great finish to the season, then we can talk about votes. The upcoming games against Middlebury and Amherst will be telling. Let’s be honest, Tarnow hasn't been able to elevate Trinity to the top of NESCAC in the past five years, with a win percentage below 45%. They haven't played any legitimate out-of-conference teams like most of the NESCAC teams do. If this trend continues, there are rumors JT might be gone after this year. Parents and alumni not happy with him and how he goes about running a program. Some coaches just can’t figure it out year after year. We will see if he is one of those coaches over the next couple of weeks. If he loses both games, then that answers the question. On another note, Bill Mason from Bowdoin is the real deal; he is running a very successful program and in only his third year completely turned Bowdoin around. They were like Trinity at the bottom most of the time, but he got them into the top four every year since arriving. He is doing it at a less athletic friendly school and up in Maine.Now that is impressive!

This is a very good analysis. +1

So, can we all agree Will Byrne is the NESCAC POY? Kid is a beast!!

[Unknown Participant]

Trinity will not receive any votes because they're considered a second-tier team. Their recent losses to Williams, Tufts, and Bowdoin were decisive, and they also fell to Skidmore. Their overtime win over Wesleyan, Clarke, West Conn, and Scranton is unlikely to boost their ranking and earn them any consideration for votes. Not unless they have a great finish to the season, then we can talk about votes. The upcoming games against Middlebury and Amherst will be telling. Let’s be honest, Tarnow hasn't been able to elevate Trinity to the top of NESCAC in the past five years, with a win percentage below 45%. They haven't played any legitimate out-of-conference teams like most of the NESCAC teams do. If this trend continues, there are rumors JT might be gone after this year. Parents and alumni not happy with him and how he goes about running a program. Some coaches just can’t figure it out year after year. We will see if he is one of those coaches over the next couple of weeks. If he loses both games, then that answers the question. On another note, Bill Mason from Bowdoin is the real deal; he is running a very successful program and in only his third year completely turned Bowdoin around. They were like Trinity at the bottom most of the time, but he got them into the top four every year since arriving. He is doing it at a less athletic friendly school and up in Maine.Now that is impressive!

This is a very good analysis. +1

So, can we all agree Will Byrne is the NESCAC POY? Kid is a beast!!

I've been saying Regnery since about the CNU game. He's a little young so Byrne will probably get it.

[SKUD]

I assume the winner of tomorrow nights game (and depending on what happens Bowdoin v Tufts)will be the Region 1 top team.

Current top 4
Tufts
Babson
Endicott
Bowdoin

[Low2high22]

I assume the winner of tomorrow nights game (and depending on what happens Bowdoin v Tufts)will be the Region 1 top team.

Current top 4
Tufts
Babson
Endicott
Bowdoin

Have they come out with regional rankings yet?

[SKUD]

Don’t think they come out for a few weeks. Just basing it on LY vs current results.

[pcowlax]

Good lord. Came to play tonight. Tufts game will
Be extremely interesting. When they are on, watch out. Obviously though there have wet the bed with a few games this year. Excited for next week of games.

[callaxdad]

Trinity will not receive any votes because they're considered a second-tier team. Their recent losses to Williams, Tufts, and Bowdoin were decisive, and they also fell to Skidmore. Their overtime win over Wesleyan, Clarke, West Conn, and Scranton is unlikely to boost their ranking and earn them any consideration for votes. Not unless they have a great finish to the season, then we can talk about votes. The upcoming games against Middlebury and Amherst will be telling. Let’s be honest, Tarnow hasn't been able to elevate Trinity to the top of NESCAC in the past five years, with a win percentage below 45%. They haven't played any legitimate out-of-conference teams like most of the NESCAC teams do. If this trend continues, there are rumors JT might be gone after this year. Parents and alumni not happy with him and how he goes about running a program. Some coaches just can’t figure it out year after year. We will see if he is one of those coaches over the next couple of weeks. If he loses both games, then that answers the question. On another note, Bill Mason from Bowdoin is the real deal; he is running a very successful program and in only his third year completely turned Bowdoin around. They were like Trinity at the bottom most of the time, but he got them into the top four every year since arriving. He is doing it at a less athletic friendly school and up in Maine.Now that is impressive!

This is a very good analysis. +1

So, can we all agree Will Byrne is the NESCAC POY? Kid is a beast!!

I've been saying Regnery since about the CNU game. He's a little young so Byrne will probably get it.

Yeah, a toss up, Reg is a really special talent and could/should be POY….we shall see…

[SaltCounty]

Good for Bowdoin - what a turnaround since the Endicott / Babson losses.
Those two must be feeling good that if they don't lock up the AQ, they're in a good spot on 5/5.

Bowdoin ending with Wesleyan / Tufts is unique given the scenarios for #1 seed

Bowdoin wins both - Undefeated Regular Season & #1 seed.
Bowdoin beats Wes / Tufts loses to Amherst - Bowdoin is #1 seed regardless over 2 loss Tufts / 3 loss Wesleyan (Tuesday results don't matter)
Bowdoin beats Wes / Tufts beat Amherst - they play for #1 seed Tuesday.
Bowdoin loses to Wes / Tufts beats Amherst - they play for #1 seed Tuesday


Bowdoin loses to Wes / Tufts loses to Amherst would make for a wild finish in Medford...
An 8W-1L Bowdoin loss at 7W-2L Tufts would make Wesleyan the #1 seed (pending a win over Conn)

After the past few weeks - who knows what will happen.
BTW... Trinity is in position to be as high as #3 ( ) if they can win the last three and get some help from a Wesleyan loss.

As someone who thought this was Middlebury's year... the excitement about others outweighs the disappointment of being wrong

[jumpman23]

Good for Bowdoin - what a turnaround since the Endicott / Babson losses.
Those two must be feeling good that if they don't lock up the AQ, they're in a good spot on 5/5.

Bowdoin ending with Wesleyan / Tufts is unique given the scenarios for #1 seed

Bowdoin wins both - Undefeated Regular Season & #1 seed.
Bowdoin beats Wes / Tufts loses to Amherst - Bowdoin is #1 seed regardless over 2 loss Tufts / 3 loss Wesleyan (Tuesday results don't matter)
Bowdoin beats Wes / Tufts beat Amherst - they play for #1 seed Tuesday.
Bowdoin loses to Wes / Tufts beats Amherst - they play for #1 seed Tuesday


Bowdoin loses to Wes / Tufts loses to Amherst would make for a wild finish in Medford...
An 8W-1L Bowdoin loss at 7W-2L Tufts would make Wesleyan the #1 seed (pending a win over Conn)

After the past few weeks - who knows what will happen.
BTW... Trinity is in position to be as high as #3 ( ) if they can win the last three and get some help from a Wesleyan loss.

As someone who thought this was Middlebury's year... the excitement about others outweighs the disappointment of being wrong

Fantastic write-up of all these scenarios, many thanks. I watched the game and I was very very wrong about Amherst, they got blown off the field. And it would have been even worse if the faceoffs weren't 50/50. Bowdoin defense looked mean, and the first-year pole probably should be considered for ROY. Beating both Wes and Tufts on the road is seemingly too tall a task for Bowdoin, so one of those complex scenarios will probably happen. With Wes as the #1 seed being the wildest yet in play. Can't wait for the tournament and hopefully 4 NCAA bids for the CAC again this year.

[fortheloveoftheCAC]

Good for Bowdoin - what a turnaround since the Endicott / Babson losses.
Those two must be feeling good that if they don't lock up the AQ, they're in a good spot on 5/5.

Bowdoin ending with Wesleyan / Tufts is unique given the scenarios for #1 seed

Bowdoin wins both - Undefeated Regular Season & #1 seed.
Bowdoin beats Wes / Tufts loses to Amherst - Bowdoin is #1 seed regardless over 2 loss Tufts / 3 loss Wesleyan (Tuesday results don't matter)
Bowdoin beats Wes / Tufts beat Amherst - they play for #1 seed Tuesday.
Bowdoin loses to Wes / Tufts beats Amherst - they play for #1 seed Tuesday


Bowdoin loses to Wes / Tufts loses to Amherst would make for a wild finish in Medford...
An 8W-1L Bowdoin loss at 7W-2L Tufts would make Wesleyan the #1 seed (pending a win over Conn)

After the past few weeks - who knows what will happen.
BTW... Trinity is in position to be as high as #3 ( ) if they can win the last three and get some help from a Wesleyan loss.

As someone who thought this was Middlebury's year... the excitement about others outweighs the disappointment of being wrong

Fantastic write-up of all these scenarios, many thanks. I watched the game and I was very very wrong about Amherst, they got blown off the field. And it would have been even worse if the faceoffs weren't 50/50. Bowdoin defense looked mean, and the first-year pole probably should be considered for ROY. Beating both Wes and Tufts on the road is seemingly too tall a task for Bowdoin, so one of those complex scenarios will probably happen. With Wes as the #1 seed being the wildest yet in play. Can't wait for the tournament and hopefully 4 NCAA bids for the CAC again this year.

Last night was a shocker for everyone as it seems. Totally agree with your point about that first-year D from Bowdoin--looked like the ROTY guarding his little brother out there. Great FY-on-FY matchup, but it looked like 19 absolutely owned 6 last night. Should be interesting to see how Amherst bounces back against RPI. Definitely sub-ideal for a big OOC game to happen on the tail end of a 3 game/5 day stretch. Tufts also could see a good test vs. Babson, but coming off the blowout win over Midd they should feel good about themselves going into tonight. With the top 3 teams on hot streaks coming into the playoffs we should be ready for mayhem in the coming week.