Best Examples Of DI Coaches Who Do More With Less?

[coda]

Toomey has a nice advantage of Van Arsdale at asst HC.

Going to also vote for Alberici at Army. I know what the other poster said about scholarships (which they don’t have but I know what he meant) but along with that comes a lot more that mid majors don’t even come close to. Plus if it were just the scholarship aspect, USNA & USAFA should be better.

It is double-edged sword. Academies are signing big classes every year and covering the cost of attending. Its an advantage. Navy should be better. I think they are under-performing. Air Force is a bit different. Most guys want Army or Navy and AFA is generally the 3rd choice. Not to mention their history in lacrosse is clearly inferior to USNA and Army. Flip side is Academies will not appeal to everyone. Its definitely complicated. I havent thought it though, but off the top of my head I think Army and Navy are top 15 programs all-time.

[runrussellrun]

Apoligize.......thought this was about a more "adult " themed topic.

carry on.

[jhu06]

Coaches that get very few, if any, blue-chip recruits but yet are successful and regularly battle talented to much more talented programs to the end. And sometimes even win.

If you're going to do this post seriously you post the chart that shows what each program spends per year, the number of wins, and the number of ncaa tournament wins. There's your answer. Syracuse for example spends the most I think at $2.8 million a year, most of the rest of the other acc and bigger big ten programs I think are at $2.2 million with some of the ivies, big east and patriot league at $1.8 million or so.

[gymman1031]

Prediction. Providence coach Bobby Benson, who is in his second year as the Friars' leader, will be mentioned in such discussions in the near future.

[jhu06]

Prediction. Providence coach Bobby Benson, who is in his second year as the Friars' leader, will be mentioned in such discussions in the near future.

He recruited very well at Homewood, winning and developing players were other matters.

[DocBarrister]

Charley Toomey and his staff get my vote.

Loyola has done more with less for a very long time. They play lacrosse the way lacrosse should be played. And their student cheering section is second to none.

Toomey belongs in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

DocBarrister

[Turnandrake]

Charley Toomey and his staff get my vote.

Loyola has done more with less for a very long time. They play lacrosse the way lacrosse should be played. And their student cheering section is second to none.

Toomey belongs in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

DocBarrister

Toomey has had the advantage in the PL for years being fully funded vs many teams that are not. Playing in Baltimore hot bed. Easy to recruit. MIAA best high school league around right in his back yard. Lacrosse only facilities.

[coda]

Charley Toomey and his staff get my vote.

Loyola has done more with less for a very long time. They play lacrosse the way lacrosse should be played. And their student cheering section is second to none.

Toomey belongs in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

DocBarrister

totally agree. He has been doing it forever.

[1766]

Army and Navy have some disadvantages and some real advantages. Their funding is almost unlimited. They have far more than 12.6 scholarship level athletes on the team. Stashing guys at their prep academies is another advantage. Army as an example has conveniently omitted from their players bios their attendance at MAPS. However, that you can easily see by the gap in the year they graduated from high school to their first year in WP that they were at the academy. You'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of players that didn't prep. That's a big advantage. The disadvantage for academies is the rigor of going there clearly isn't for everyone.

[Finster]

Apoligize.......thought this was about a more "adult " themed topic.

carry on.

^^^underrated post

[Finster]

Charley Toomey and his staff get my vote.

Loyola has done more with less for a very long time. They play lacrosse the way lacrosse should be played. And their student cheering section is second to none.

Toomey belongs in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

DocBarrister

Would agree

[gymman1031]

And, here is a question regarding Toomey's work in 2012. When is the next time we will see a team win it all without a roster that is loaded with 4* and higher recruits? I would say it could be awhile.

[Turnandrake]

And, here is a question regarding Toomey's work in 2012. When is the next time we will see a team win it all without a roster that is loaded with 4* and higher recruits? I would say it could be awhile.

Yale in 18

[keno in reno]

Tillman from 2011 to 2015 (3 national finals and a F4) before his recruiting kicked in
Toomey, Shay, Chemotti, Marr
Lars at Brown

[gymman1031]

And, here is a question regarding Toomey's work in 2012. When is the next time we will see a team win it all without a roster that is loaded with 4* and higher recruits? I would say it could be awhile.

Yale in 18

They may not have had many players who were 5*. But they had several who were 4*.

[socalref]

Going to throw in Justin Turri at St John’s. Now 4-7 with their first Big East win in a long time.

[gymman1031]

Going to throw in Justin Turri at St John’s. Now 4-7 with their first Big East win in a long time.

Good call! Excited to see what happens when he has more of his own players.