Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

[Typical Lax Dad]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

Yes. An “artisan” isn’t an artist either.

[old salt]

Hilarious analysis of Hunter, Fanni & Trump's trials by VDH. Enjoy.

https://www.audible.com/pd/Our-Gordian- ... 2b2f5000c7

[Farfromgeneva]

Well whaddya know - Rudy Colludy had a lien placed on his Palm Beach Condo by the IRS for failure to pay income taxes - over $1 million to date.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 81cc633ca3

Certainly Saltine Warrior will be all over this posthaste

Who cares ? When was the last time Rudy held public office ? Has he declared bankruptcy yet, due to his legal bills ?

He's held more public office than Hunter Biden ever has. Hubter Biden was and still is a private citizen as is former mayor Colludy.

So why are you making the irrelevant whatabout comparison. They're both being pursued for not paying their taxes. Rudy just doesn't have a Hollywood sugar bro to bail him out. He's no longer bankable.

He’s pointing out your ridiculous hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy ?

FFS, OS. You are blind as a freaking bat.


With Giuliani and taxes? Your response is "who cares".

With Hunter and taxes? You won't shut the F about it, and have been complaining about Hunter for MONTHS now. Conspiracy theories are established, complaints that his treatment isn't harsh enough.....everything you can throw at him. Demanding six years of investigations, and how the House is at at it...and you're cheering them on.



Can anyone here explain to me why the F 2023 Republicans have nothing---zippo----in the tank when it comes to self-awareness?

Here's Old Salt, telling the Forum that he treats Democrats and Republicans the exact same.

What hypocrisy??

Here is the best description of what this positions and framework some cats here and around the country have taken.

https://youtu.be/SMsnKFxjxSw?si=5Y9GKnockvzOfbLj

[Farfromgeneva]

A little summary of the GOP's dry well, so far anyway:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/22/us/p ... quiry.html

"As they search for evidence they can use to impeach President Biden, House Republicans have repeatedly pointed to evidence that they say undercuts his claims that he never had anything to do with the foreign business dealings of his son, Hunter Biden.

As vice president, for example, Mr. Biden did briefly meet with some of his son’s business associates, though there is no testimony that he had any substantive discussions with them or that he changed government policy to benefit any of Hunter Biden’s ventures.

Still, Republicans have continued to mine voluminous records related to Hunter Biden, including a trove of messages from a computer hard drive, to try to make a case that Hunter Biden’s income from abroad was at the heart of an influence-peddling operation that enriched the entire Biden family, including his father.

Republicans have used quotes culled from text messages or emails to add a confessional quality to their presentations — evidence, they say, that Hunter Biden was essentially admitting that he and his father were engaged in political corruption.

But an examination of some of the highest-profile examples cited by Republicans shows that they have been taken out of context, or that Republicans have omitted key messages in email or text chains that often cast the communications in a more innocuous light.

‘Half my salary’

In one example, Republicans point to a 2019 text message Hunter Biden sent to his daughter in which, they say, he confesses to sharing half of the millions he received from overseas business deals with his father.

“I Hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro 30 years,” he wrote in the typo-filled message. “It’s really hard. But don’t worry unlike Pop I won’t make you give me half your salary.”

Rather than referring to money Hunter Biden received from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma or from a venture with a Chinese partner, Hunter Biden was alluding to his financial support for his own children and his school days, when his father allowed him to keep half the paycheck from part-time jobs but asked that he turn over the other half to help pay for room and board, according to a review of Hunter Biden’s messages and interviews by The New York Times.

‘10 percent for the big guy’

The phrase “10 percent for the big guy” is almost ubiquitous in Republican circles, stemming from the accusation that Hunter Biden gave his father a 10 percent stake in his business deals.

It originates from a 2017 email sent by James Gilliar, a business associate of Hunter Biden’s, who proposed including the “big guy” — presumably Joseph R. Biden Jr., the former vice president — in a business venture under the name Oneida Holdings.

“10 held by H for the big guy?” Mr. Gilliar wrote.

But he told The Wall Street Journal in 2020 that his suggestion never went anywhere. The former vice president did not get involved with their business, and the proposed deal never produced any profit for anyone to split.

“I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure,” Mr. Gilliar said in 2020. “I am unaware of any involvement at any time of the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

In an interview with the F.B.I., Rob Walker, Hunter Biden’s former business partner, described suggestions of getting Hunter’s father involved with the business as “wishful thinking.” He stated he “certainly never was thinking at any time that the V.P. was a part of anything we were doing.”

‘I can work with you father alone !!’

Another message Republicans have highlighted is a 2018 text sent from James Biden, the president’s brother, to Hunter Biden, who at the time was in the throes of addiction to alcohol and crack cocaine: “I can work with you father alone !! We as usual just need several months of his help for this to work.”

At a House Oversight Committee hearing, Republican lawmakers implied this message was in reference to business dealings, but another text in the chain makes clear James Biden was referring to working with Joe Biden to get help for Hunter Biden as he struggled to keep up with his bills, get sober and find a place to live.

Concerns of a bank investigator

Republicans have also drawn attention to the concerns of a bank investigator about Hunter Biden’s business activities, which involved securing millions of dollars from a Chinese firm in exchange for work the investigator flagged as potentially nonexistent.

“The activity on the account appears unusual with no current business purpose,” the investigator wrote.

But Republicans omitted other emails in the chain that were later released by Democrats on the Oversight Committee. They show a robust debate inside the bank about the legitimacy of the business activity. One response described the activity connected to Hunter Biden’s account as “reasonable and consistent with the business profile.”

$240,000 to Joe Biden

Despite assertions that anywhere from 10 percent to half of the money from Hunter Biden’s business deals went to his father, Republicans have failed thus far to show any profit for the current president.

They have documented three instances in which family members paid money to Joe Biden — while he was not in office — but they have often omitted the context that the exchanges were loan repayments, not a cut of income.

Rather than showing Joe Biden was enriched by his family’s foreign business dealings, the documents released by House Republicans so far have showed the opposite.

After leaving the vice presidency, Joe Biden made more than $15 million, mostly through speaking engagements and book sales, some of which went to support his extended family.

By contrast, Hunter Biden spent much of his money on alcohol, drugs, prostitutes, fancy cars and other self-indulgent expenses and failed to pay his taxes on time, resulting in his federal indictment this month on tax charges.

James Biden also found himself from time to time in need of a loan. According to House Republicans, at one point, James Biden had just $46 in a personal account.

House Republicans have pointed to two payments — one for $200,000 and another for $40,000 — James Biden made to Joe Biden while he was not in office. They have characterized the $40,000 check as “laundered China money.” But they did not note evidence showing Joe Biden had first loaned money to his brother before being repaid.

The House Oversight Committee has also released documents that showed that one of Hunter Biden’s businesses, Owasco PC, made three payments of $1,380 to Joe Biden in 2018. But other documents indicate the money was to pay back his father for helping to cover the cost of a Ford truck.

‘I am sitting here with my father’

One WhatsApp message that has received much attention was provided by an I.R.S. investigator who testified before Congress under whistle-blower protections. In it, Hunter Biden invoked his father, who was then out of office, while pressing a potential Chinese business partner in 2017 to move ahead with a proposed energy deal.

“I am sitting here with my father and we would like to know why the commitment has not been fulfilled,” the message states. On its face, the message seemed to suggest Joe Biden was in league with his son pressuring for a payment to the family.

But Democrats have argued it is more likely an example of Hunter Biden’s bluster than an accurate statement of Joe Biden’s involvement in a shakedown. A lawyer for Hunter Biden says he does not remember sending the message.

The president has denied he was present at the time."

Uh oh... NYT circling the wagons. Must be something "there there"

Jesus

He already knew about it form Joe Rogan long ago…

[Farfromgeneva]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

James Franco knows art

https://youtu.be/KvzheiXCDjk?si=a00APt_Og-kIp2u8

[Typical Lax Dad]

A little summary of the GOP's dry well, so far anyway:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/22/us/p ... quiry.html

"As they search for evidence they can use to impeach President Biden, House Republicans have repeatedly pointed to evidence that they say undercuts his claims that he never had anything to do with the foreign business dealings of his son, Hunter Biden.

As vice president, for example, Mr. Biden did briefly meet with some of his son’s business associates, though there is no testimony that he had any substantive discussions with them or that he changed government policy to benefit any of Hunter Biden’s ventures.

Still, Republicans have continued to mine voluminous records related to Hunter Biden, including a trove of messages from a computer hard drive, to try to make a case that Hunter Biden’s income from abroad was at the heart of an influence-peddling operation that enriched the entire Biden family, including his father.

Republicans have used quotes culled from text messages or emails to add a confessional quality to their presentations — evidence, they say, that Hunter Biden was essentially admitting that he and his father were engaged in political corruption.

But an examination of some of the highest-profile examples cited by Republicans shows that they have been taken out of context, or that Republicans have omitted key messages in email or text chains that often cast the communications in a more innocuous light.

‘Half my salary’

In one example, Republicans point to a 2019 text message Hunter Biden sent to his daughter in which, they say, he confesses to sharing half of the millions he received from overseas business deals with his father.

“I Hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro 30 years,” he wrote in the typo-filled message. “It’s really hard. But don’t worry unlike Pop I won’t make you give me half your salary.”

Rather than referring to money Hunter Biden received from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma or from a venture with a Chinese partner, Hunter Biden was alluding to his financial support for his own children and his school days, when his father allowed him to keep half the paycheck from part-time jobs but asked that he turn over the other half to help pay for room and board, according to a review of Hunter Biden’s messages and interviews by The New York Times.

‘10 percent for the big guy’

The phrase “10 percent for the big guy” is almost ubiquitous in Republican circles, stemming from the accusation that Hunter Biden gave his father a 10 percent stake in his business deals.

It originates from a 2017 email sent by James Gilliar, a business associate of Hunter Biden’s, who proposed including the “big guy” — presumably Joseph R. Biden Jr., the former vice president — in a business venture under the name Oneida Holdings.

“10 held by H for the big guy?” Mr. Gilliar wrote.

But he told The Wall Street Journal in 2020 that his suggestion never went anywhere. The former vice president did not get involved with their business, and the proposed deal never produced any profit for anyone to split.

“I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure,” Mr. Gilliar said in 2020. “I am unaware of any involvement at any time of the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

In an interview with the F.B.I., Rob Walker, Hunter Biden’s former business partner, described suggestions of getting Hunter’s father involved with the business as “wishful thinking.” He stated he “certainly never was thinking at any time that the V.P. was a part of anything we were doing.”

‘I can work with you father alone !!’

Another message Republicans have highlighted is a 2018 text sent from James Biden, the president’s brother, to Hunter Biden, who at the time was in the throes of addiction to alcohol and crack cocaine: “I can work with you father alone !! We as usual just need several months of his help for this to work.”

At a House Oversight Committee hearing, Republican lawmakers implied this message was in reference to business dealings, but another text in the chain makes clear James Biden was referring to working with Joe Biden to get help for Hunter Biden as he struggled to keep up with his bills, get sober and find a place to live.

Concerns of a bank investigator

Republicans have also drawn attention to the concerns of a bank investigator about Hunter Biden’s business activities, which involved securing millions of dollars from a Chinese firm in exchange for work the investigator flagged as potentially nonexistent.

“The activity on the account appears unusual with no current business purpose,” the investigator wrote.

But Republicans omitted other emails in the chain that were later released by Democrats on the Oversight Committee. They show a robust debate inside the bank about the legitimacy of the business activity. One response described the activity connected to Hunter Biden’s account as “reasonable and consistent with the business profile.”

$240,000 to Joe Biden

Despite assertions that anywhere from 10 percent to half of the money from Hunter Biden’s business deals went to his father, Republicans have failed thus far to show any profit for the current president.

They have documented three instances in which family members paid money to Joe Biden — while he was not in office — but they have often omitted the context that the exchanges were loan repayments, not a cut of income.

Rather than showing Joe Biden was enriched by his family’s foreign business dealings, the documents released by House Republicans so far have showed the opposite.

After leaving the vice presidency, Joe Biden made more than $15 million, mostly through speaking engagements and book sales, some of which went to support his extended family.

By contrast, Hunter Biden spent much of his money on alcohol, drugs, prostitutes, fancy cars and other self-indulgent expenses and failed to pay his taxes on time, resulting in his federal indictment this month on tax charges.

James Biden also found himself from time to time in need of a loan. According to House Republicans, at one point, James Biden had just $46 in a personal account.

House Republicans have pointed to two payments — one for $200,000 and another for $40,000 — James Biden made to Joe Biden while he was not in office. They have characterized the $40,000 check as “laundered China money.” But they did not note evidence showing Joe Biden had first loaned money to his brother before being repaid.

The House Oversight Committee has also released documents that showed that one of Hunter Biden’s businesses, Owasco PC, made three payments of $1,380 to Joe Biden in 2018. But other documents indicate the money was to pay back his father for helping to cover the cost of a Ford truck.

‘I am sitting here with my father’

One WhatsApp message that has received much attention was provided by an I.R.S. investigator who testified before Congress under whistle-blower protections. In it, Hunter Biden invoked his father, who was then out of office, while pressing a potential Chinese business partner in 2017 to move ahead with a proposed energy deal.

“I am sitting here with my father and we would like to know why the commitment has not been fulfilled,” the message states. On its face, the message seemed to suggest Joe Biden was in league with his son pressuring for a payment to the family.

But Democrats have argued it is more likely an example of Hunter Biden’s bluster than an accurate statement of Joe Biden’s involvement in a shakedown. A lawyer for Hunter Biden says he does not remember sending the message.

The president has denied he was present at the time."

Uh oh... NYT circling the wagons. Must be something "there there"

Jesus

He already knew about it form Joe Rogan long ago…

[tech37]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

[Typical Lax Dad]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

[Kismet]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a fine artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

[tech37]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

[cradleandshoot]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

So would Michaelangelo. I believe he is considered a true artist.

[Kismet]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

[tech37]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

[Kismet]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

[tech37]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

Just for you Kismet... and here I thought MOMA only recognizes "true artists."

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/8108

[Kismet]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

Just for you Kismet... and here I thought MOMA only recognizes "true artists."

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/8108

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

[a fan]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

Just for you Kismet... and here I thought MOMA only recognizes "true artists."

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/8108

You thought MOMA only recognizes artists?

Nope.

The 28th Annual Exhibition
of Advertising and
Editorial Art of the New
York Art Directors Club

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3249

[tech37]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

Just for you Kismet... and here I thought MOMA only recognizes "true artists."

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/8108

You thought MOMA only recognizes artists?

Nope.

The 28th Annual Exhibition
of Advertising and
Editorial Art of the New
York Art Directors Club

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3249

Here we go again a fan. Follow the thread and try to understand before butting in?

[Kismet]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

Just for you Kismet... and here I thought MOMA only recognizes "true artists."

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/8108

You thought MOMA only recognizes artists?

Nope.

The 28th Annual Exhibition
of Advertising and
Editorial Art of the New
York Art Directors Club

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3249

Here we go again a fan. Follow the thread and try to understand before butting in?

Maybe he understands just fine, tech.

[tech37]

Hunter's laptop will end up in the Smithsonian.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/17/hunter ... department

...along with his "art".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/politics ... index.html

Art is in the eye of the beholder. The Rockwells in your home are prints and some may question whether that is “art”.

Rockwell was an ILLUSTRATOR not an artist. Even his originals might not be considered true art.

Basically different - some background here

https://navinachhabria.medium.com/under ... 73e841742b

The late, great Milton Glaser referred to Rockwell as the "great American surrealist."

The graphic designer?

Glaser was a graphic designer - doing logos, layout for magazines and the like - not a true artist either. His opinion of Rockwell out of left field - surrealist? really?

Haha... it's a shame you're not smart enough to understand the irony in Glaser's statement.

BTW when you're not busy being creative , please explain what a "true artist" is. I'd love to hear that one.

Having met and worked with Glaser, not the most pleasant person to deal with. on ANY subject

read the link I posted earlier - you apparently aren't paying attention either

He probably didn't like YOU.

You're out of your league here. You ought to stick to reciting history.

Glaser didn't like ANYBODY Except maybe himself.

Thx for the advice so I can ignore it. Like you have some idea of what my league is in the first place.

Just for you Kismet... and here I thought MOMA only recognizes "true artists."

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/8108

You thought MOMA only recognizes artists?

Nope.

The 28th Annual Exhibition
of Advertising and
Editorial Art of the New
York Art Directors Club

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3249

Here we go again a fan. Follow the thread and try to understand before butting in?

Maybe he understands just fine, tech.

Sure Kismet sure...

Don't forget to explain what your idea of a "true artist" is. You've had a few hours now to think something up.

You probably think Hunter is!