Might be $20k here now my son is rising to 5th grade in a week and a half and inflation and such. I just know it was around $2,500/mo for the two and the older pre k one was cheaper (we didn’t get into the Ga state lottery funded free Pre K program that is nice for some here and skews towards lower income but not low income oriented per se).MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:19 pmI'm certainly not an opponent. I went to 'Pilot Class" as did my sister, my son, her kids...her son she held back an extra year from the twin daughter as the daughter was clearly very swift in every aspect whereas the son was clearly going to have learning issues (great young man now, but struggled). Made us on the older side but not a full year.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:01 pmAs you know I’m a pre k “holdback” or repeat year parent with my son being 8/23 birthday and school starting down here 8/1 it felt weird when in the first year of pre K 4-5 kids were turning 5yrs old 1-3 weeks before my son turned 4 socially and emotionally. His sister is 22mo younger with a June Bday (day before mine which rendered my bday irrelevant for the rest of time) but only 1yr apart in school now so it’ll be interesting as they get older to watch how they handle it being on the older and younger side of their classes.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:25 amGot it.Hoxwurth wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:58 amI think it's insane boys graduate high school at 19 regularly now regardless of the reason. I understand why parents do it, however. The fact that there were six of ten starters were too old shows how widespread it was. All of those boys will graduate high school at 19. At my high school years ago, there was only one, and he was considered weird. (Turns out he was a good dude.)MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:32 am But the bolded part: are you saying that it was wrong ("insane") for these older kids to be moved up because they were older, held back not for athletics but rather academics? And yet you're saying these are "far more competitive" "prototypical" lacrosse parents...? Or was it "insane" there were so many older kids on that AA team?
Just looking for explanation, not arguing.
As for parent competitiveness, it seems to align with family income. So lacrosse > soccer > basketball = football. It doesn't spill over to the country club sports in the same way. There are more holdbacks for lacrosse followed by basketball. Soccer seems to have the opposite issue where young kids are competing to move up.
Happy to explain more if I'm not being clear. Didn't think you were argumentative at all.
At least when I was paying closer attention, most of those who were 19 turned 19 within a month or two of graduation...very rare to see it mid-year. And most of those who one might consider 'older' were summer babies, 'held back' through extra pre-school year instead of pushed ahead and young for class above. Seems like there's more of those happening, and more attention to it is causing more of the 'competitive' parents to make that decision.
and yeah, for many of these parents it's a maybe $20k decision to do another pre-K year in private school.
And it does seem to be a factor...the 3 most heavily recruited lax players in my son's '12 HS class were all summer babies, June, July. The next two, including my son, were fall babies. The lesser recruited were fall and winter, one summer.
But as I wrote earlier, this particular set of kids "played up" throughout the MS and HS years, competing regularly against kids in one or two classes above. It wasn't playing down in that sense.
Not quite $20k for the extra year, know I was subsidizing my wifes work income back then vs stay at home as a mom but more like $2,500mo total with like $1,100/mo for pre K in the split so call it an extra $12k or so. Think it made sense for our family but I actually was leaning against repeating pre K exactly because I loathe the super parents who hold their kids back or reclass as teenagers and think that’s doing a disservice to their kids long run. But pulled the trigger on it anyway.
Yeah, maybe $12k in the shorthaul, but when you add up the tuition increases year to year over the following 12 of secondary...adds up. Might be more than $20k overall...and of course, in some jurisdictions even the pre-k year can be $20k +.
Out bigger issue now is the two out of class years as young ages.