Baltimore: A Shining Star

[Farfromgeneva]

Thanks. Never heard it.

We understood one another, but’inside’ joke.

Obviously, Roland Park is a very nice area, with all sorts of desirable aspects, including schools both private and public. It also has some fraught history of redlining but that’s another topic.

I’m still trying to decipher your earlier post, presumably typed on a phone.

Redlining was wide spread locally and nationally with adverse comsequences still playing out

Not to mention highways splitting cities in half intentionally.

[OCanada]

Thanks. Never heard it.

We understood one another, but’inside’ joke.

Obviously, Roland Park is a very nice area, with all sorts of desirable aspects, including schools both private and public. It also has some fraught history of redlining but that’s another topic.

I’m still trying to decipher your earlier post, presumably typed on a phone.

Redlining was wide spread locally and nationally with adverse comsequences still playing out

Not to mention highways splitting cities in half intentionally.

Indeed not to mention. I am more out of the loop now but i believe they want to take it out. There were some great bars on the west side eg Underground (biggest dice game in the City, Gandy Dancer ( The real IRA would pass the black beret on St Pattys and the Elgin Lounge ( The Monroe Bros). Not in places many folks would go

[Farfromgeneva]

Thanks. Never heard it.

We understood one another, but’inside’ joke.

Obviously, Roland Park is a very nice area, with all sorts of desirable aspects, including schools both private and public. It also has some fraught history of redlining but that’s another topic.

I’m still trying to decipher your earlier post, presumably typed on a phone.

Redlining was wide spread locally and nationally with adverse comsequences still playing out

Not to mention highways splitting cities in half intentionally.

Indeed not to mention. I am more out of the loop now but i believe they want to take it out. There were some great bars on the west side eg Underground (biggest dice game in the City, Gandy Dancer ( The real IRA would pass the black beret on St Pattys and the Elgin Lounge ( The Monroe Bros). Not in places many folks would go

Need a new Michael Collins! Or at least Shane McGowan.

It’s all over the SE too. Raleigh, CLT, Atl, Orlando, BHam etc. Atlanta is trying to figure out how to put the city back together now with all the growth and its difficult, expensive and leading to suboptimal solutions

[MDlaxfan76]

Thanks. Never heard it.

We understood one another, but’inside’ joke.

Obviously, Roland Park is a very nice area, with all sorts of desirable aspects, including schools both private and public. It also has some fraught history of redlining but that’s another topic.

I’m still trying to decipher your earlier post, presumably typed on a phone.

Redlining was wide spread locally and nationally with adverse comsequences still playing out

Yes indeed.
Roland Park's redlining persisted well after the government-approved such had ended.
The consequences of Baltimore's redlining are pretty clear in where we see persistent poverty and all that comes with such ghettoization.

[runrussellrun]

Just please go away. I mentioned redlining not to dismiss but rather as to recognize that history.

Back to ignore.

Which history? of Baltimore?

How many lacrosse players, of African decent, played on your sons teams ?

How many of those same demographic, do, or will, we see parading around the CLUB circuits in 2023 ?

exactly

Baltimore.....IS....lacrosse, yes?

You wanting to "ignore" that history....is oh, so, convieant . ....just, after....YOU bring that subject up

stay classy, back to ignore

[Farfromgeneva]

I demand you pay attention to me or else you are BAD MAN!

[MDlaxfan76]

I demand you pay attention to me or else you are BAD MAN!

To answer our ranter's question though, I had only one black player on my team back in the '70's, he went on to play for Harvard.

My son's teams had multiple most years.

But definitely underrepresented relative to regional population. Lacrosse continues to be stubbornly underrepresented despite significant efforts. My dad was involved with the first public city middle school program in Baltimore, in the '80's, sponsored by the Lacrosse Foundation. He was on its BD as Treasurer. He was instrumental in getting the Abell Foundation's additional support...I helped out in the 90's a bit as a BD member. My son was involved in the inner city club program with Trilogy, coaching a team at age 15 (I drove) of middle schoolers at a community center in East Baltimore. Games on the weekends at Patterson Park. He continued that involvement into college. Great experience.

[DocBarrister]

As is my usual custom, I was spending my Monday evening contemplating the greatness of The Johns Hopkins University while drinking some Martell Cordon Bleu when I came upon this question:

Does any potential presidential candidate in America have a better resume than Wes Moore?

After all, the guy lost his father at the age of 3 (hello soft-heart voters);

spent time growing up in the Bronx (hello New York primary);

is African American (hello, South Carolina primary);

is part Cuban (hello, Florida);

Graduated HS and junior college at the Valley Forge Military Academy (hello, Pennsylvania);

served in the 82nd Airborne as a captain and saw combat duty in Afghanistan (hello, veterans vote);

was an early member and board member of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (hello, patriots vote and shield against gun nuts);

graduated from Johns Hopkins and the University of Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar (hello suburban educated voters);

worked as an investment banker in Manhattan (real business experience);

led a non-profit organization (hello liberals);

has a lovely fashion-trendy wife and two good-looking kids (hello Obama fans); and

is now the Governor of Maryland (hello voters who want real political experience).

Plus, he’s a pretty good speaker (but a bit too polished if you ask me … he needs to work on keeping his stump speeches “real”).

Pretty much checks all the boxes. Just needs to keep away from scandal and stay faithful to his wife.

It’s hard not to see him being elected president some day.

Ok, back to the Cordon Bleu ….

DocBarrister

[youthathletics]

As is my usual custom, I was spending my Monday evening contemplating the greatness of The Johns Hopkins University while drinking some Martell Cordon Bleu when I came upon this question:

Does any potential presidential candidate in America have a better resume than Wes Moore?

After all, the guy lost his father at the age of 3 (hello soft-heart voters);

spent time growing up in the Bronx (hello New York primary);

is African American (hello, South Carolina primary);

is part Cuban (hello, Florida);

Graduated HS and junior college at the Valley Forge Military Academy (hello, Pennsylvania);

served in the 82nd Airborne as a captain and saw combat duty in Afghanistan (hello, veterans vote);

was an early member and board member of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (hello, patriots vote and shield against gun nuts);

graduated from Johns Hopkins and the University of Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar (hello suburban educated voters);

worked as an investment banker in Manhattan (real business experience);

led a non-profit organization (hello liberals);

has a lovely fashion-trendy wife and two good-looking kids (hello Obama fans); and

is now the Governor of Maryland (hello voters who want real political experience).

Plus, he’s a pretty good speaker (but a bit too polished if you ask me … he needs to work on keeping his stump speeches “real”).

Pretty much checks all the boxes. Just needs to keep away from scandal and stay faithful to his wife.

It’s hard not to see him being elected president some day.

Ok, back to the Cordon Bleu ….

DocBarrister

Give Armagnac a try, I find it much more complex than Cognac. I am currently working on a bottle of Delord BAS XO, you will not be disappointed.

[DocBarrister]

As is my usual custom, I was spending my Monday evening contemplating the greatness of The Johns Hopkins University while drinking some Martell Cordon Bleu when I came upon this question:

Does any potential presidential candidate in America have a better resume than Wes Moore?

After all, the guy lost his father at the age of 3 (hello soft-heart voters);

spent time growing up in the Bronx (hello New York primary);

is African American (hello, South Carolina primary);

is part Cuban (hello, Florida);

Graduated HS and junior college at the Valley Forge Military Academy (hello, Pennsylvania);

served in the 82nd Airborne as a captain and saw combat duty in Afghanistan (hello, veterans vote);

was an early member and board member of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (hello, patriots vote and shield against gun nuts);

graduated from Johns Hopkins and the University of Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar (hello suburban educated voters);

worked as an investment banker in Manhattan (real business experience);

led a non-profit organization (hello liberals);

has a lovely fashion-trendy wife and two good-looking kids (hello Obama fans); and

is now the Governor of Maryland (hello voters who want real political experience).

Plus, he’s a pretty good speaker (but a bit too polished if you ask me … he needs to work on keeping his stump speeches “real”).

Pretty much checks all the boxes. Just needs to keep away from scandal and stay faithful to his wife.

It’s hard not to see him being elected president some day.

Ok, back to the Cordon Bleu ….

DocBarrister

Give Armagnac a try, I find it much more complex than Cognac. I am currently working on a bottle of Delord BAS XO, you will not be disappointed.

That’s an excellent suggestion. Thanks!

DocBarrister

[youthathletics]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

[runrussellrun]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

this is absolutely insane. Initial reports are that the ship lost "propulsion" Did the ship also lose the ability to drop anchor or steer?


It literally was a direct hit in the ship was on fire prior to hitting the pillar, causing the collapse
very very strange
wonder if we'll ever ever learn anything about the "pilot"?


this is so big it deserves its own thread, but boy or boy will this affect the Amazon company in a huge way

[PizzaSnake]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

this is absolutely insane. Initial reports are that the ship lost "propulsion" Did the ship also lose the ability to drop anchor or steer?


It literally was a direct hit in the ship was on fire prior to hitting the pillar, causing the collapse
very very strange
wonder if we'll ever ever learn anything about the "pilot"?


this is so big it deserves its own thread, but boy or boy will this affect the Amazon company in a huge way

Large cargo ships are governed by inertia. Can't turn or stop very quickly.

[runrussellrun]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

this is absolutely insane. Initial reports are that the ship lost "propulsion" Did the ship also lose the ability to drop anchor or steer?


It literally was a direct hit in the ship was on fire prior to hitting the pillar, causing the collapse
very very strange
wonder if we'll ever ever learn anything about the "pilot"?


this is so big it deserves its own thread, but boy or boy will this affect the Amazon company in a huge way

Large cargo ships are governed by inertia. Can't turn or stop very quickly.

inertia applies to every single size ship, and Einstein's theory applies to all accordingly

What' your physics problem doesn't explain the steering and the direction that the big giant cargo ship on fire was headed

sounds reasonable to have cargo ships that are steered via screws alone with no rudder , especially around our nations infrastructure


this is going to make the Philly bridge collapse on 95. Look like child's play this is a major major disaster.


unfortunately, those addicted to their cell phone have already made it a "political" thing


there is $1 billion for railroad security in the most recent bill, but haven't got around to our port of entry overall in that budget for security

fix stupid mandatory two tugboats until your past the Bay Bridge. Then you can go on your own and head down south. especially for rudderless cargo ships.

[PizzaSnake]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

this is absolutely insane. Initial reports are that the ship lost "propulsion" Did the ship also lose the ability to drop anchor or steer?


It literally was a direct hit in the ship was on fire prior to hitting the pillar, causing the collapse
very very strange
wonder if we'll ever ever learn anything about the "pilot"?


this is so big it deserves its own thread, but boy or boy will this affect the Amazon company in a huge way

Large cargo ships are governed by inertia. Can't turn or stop very quickly.

inertia applies to every single size ship, and Einstein's theory applies to all accordingly

What' your physics problem doesn't explain the steering and the direction that the big giant cargo ship on fire was headed

sounds reasonable to have cargo ships that are steered via screws alone with no rudder , especially around our nations infrastructure


this is going to make the Philly bridge collapse on 95. Look like child's play this is a major major disaster.


unfortunately, those addicted to their cell phone have already made it a "political" thing


there is $1 billion for railroad security in the most recent bill, but haven't got around to our port of entry overall in that budget for security

fix stupid mandatory two tugboats until your past the Bay Bridge. Then you can go on your own and head down south. especially for rudderless cargo ships.

Ah yes. Hindsight. But all of the beancounting MBAs, in their infinite wisdom, when assessing risk, looked at what they felt the probability of such an event, regardless of impact, and decided that such an obvious mitigation was too expensive. And it was ... until it wasn't.

Sucks to be everyone who will be impacted by that remarkably poor bit of risk analysis...

[PizzaSnake]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

this is absolutely insane. Initial reports are that the ship lost "propulsion" Did the ship also lose the ability to drop anchor or steer?


It literally was a direct hit in the ship was on fire prior to hitting the pillar, causing the collapse
very very strange
wonder if we'll ever ever learn anything about the "pilot"?


this is so big it deserves its own thread, but boy or boy will this affect the Amazon company in a huge way

Large cargo ships are governed by inertia. Can't turn or stop very quickly.

inertia applies to every single size ship, and Einstein's theory applies to all accordingly

What' your physics problem doesn't explain the steering and the direction that the big giant cargo ship on fire was headed

sounds reasonable to have cargo ships that are steered via screws alone with no rudder , especially around our nations infrastructure


this is going to make the Philly bridge collapse on 95. Look like child's play this is a major major disaster.


unfortunately, those addicted to their cell phone have already made it a "political" thing


there is $1 billion for railroad security in the most recent bill, but haven't got around to our port of entry overall in that budget for security

fix stupid mandatory two tugboats until your past the Bay Bridge. Then you can go on your own and head down south. especially for rudderless cargo ships.

Ah yes. Hindsight. But all of the beancounting MBAs, in their infinite wisdom, when assessing risk, looked at what they felt the probability of such an event, regardless of impact, and decided that such an obvious mitigation was too expensive. And it was ... until it wasn't.

Sucks to be everyone who will be impacted by that remarkably poor bit of risk analysis...

[jhu72]

.... even 1 tugboat could have made a big difference.

[NattyBohChamps04]

Not sure one or even three tugs would have been able to do anything for a ship that big and heavy. Nearly 1,000 feet long.

We'll see a lot of early speculation though, that's for sure.

[PizzaSnake]

Not sure one or even three tugs would have been able to do anything for a ship that big and heavy. Nearly 1,000 feet long.

We'll see a lot of early speculation though, that's for sure.

This bridge and much of '70s infra weren't designed for current operational requirements. Expect more incidents like this one. Wait until they are the result of advertence...

[runrussellrun]

Key Bridge just collapsed:



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/baltim ... index.html

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1772514 ... 19487?s=20

this is absolutely insane. Initial reports are that the ship lost "propulsion" Did the ship also lose the ability to drop anchor or steer?


It literally was a direct hit in the ship was on fire prior to hitting the pillar, causing the collapse
very very strange
wonder if we'll ever ever learn anything about the "pilot"?


this is so big it deserves its own thread, but boy or boy will this affect the Amazon company in a huge way

Large cargo ships are governed by inertia. Can't turn or stop very quickly.

inertia applies to every single size ship, and Einstein's theory applies to all accordingly

What' your physics problem doesn't explain the steering and the direction that the big giant cargo ship on fire was headed

sounds reasonable to have cargo ships that are steered via screws alone with no rudder , especially around our nations infrastructure


this is going to make the Philly bridge collapse on 95. Look like child's play this is a major major disaster.


unfortunately, those addicted to their cell phone have already made it a "political" thing


there is $1 billion for railroad security in the most recent bill, but haven't got around to our port of entry overall in that budget for security

fix stupid mandatory two tugboats until your past the Bay Bridge. Then you can go on your own and head down south. especially for rudderless cargo ships.

Ah yes. Hindsight. But all of the beancounting MBAs, in their infinite wisdom, when assessing risk, looked at what they felt the probability of such an event, regardless of impact, and decided that such an obvious mitigation was too expensive. And it was ... until it wasn't.

Sucks to be everyone who will be impacted by that remarkably poor bit of risk analysis...

Has the "hindsight" , ya know, from the people allegadely in charge, brought about substantial change ?

Those poor bridge workers that perished......La Casa of Maryland, a group I donate too, often, hopefully, will put a big hurting on the concrete patching company. Pretty sure, the company that got the contract, was following ALL applicable laws, starting with OSHA.

Mahn.....they can't even give the names of two of the dead, but, as an aside, since this IS a Federal Highway, EVERIFY was in place to make the employees were/are "legal" ?

RIGHT !