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old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:01 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:52 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:11 pm East St. Louis has undergone ups and downs. The issue was your claim that the only history I know is from video after I posted that one.....(I posted that video as an example of a “race war”...a little different from what we saw this summer)....I was just pointing out that history is also passed down word of mouth. No criticism of the history of E. St. Louis. No different from history in lots of places. Most people’s knowledge of history is what they were taught from a book. Thats is usually just a fragment of history was my point. You have fond memories of that place....like many people. You also have fond memories of my home town.
What we saw this summer reminded me a lot of the late '60's....not the pleasant memories part.
I am not even sure those could be called “race wars”....but not surprised that would be your take. Civil unrest seems more appropriate but it is an opinion. This past summer looked liked streets of many third world countries when we see reports of dissidents....
I remember seeing smoke from both DC & Baltimore on the horizon.
Mids fearing for the safety of their girlfriends. It sure felt like war.
All we had were parade rifles without firing pins.
Rumor was -- we'd don leggings, fix bayonets & man the walls.
A couple of friends told me they had their servants’ families stay with them during those days.
Here's why 1968 felt like war {from wiki} :

Baltimore : When violent protest broke out in Baltimore on April 6, nearly the entire Maryland National Guard, both Army and Air, were called up to deal with the unrest. The notable exceptions were the state's air defense units (which manned surface-to-air missile sites around the state), those units already on duty in the Washington, DC area, and a unit positioned in Cambridge, Maryland (the site of race riots in 1963 and 1967). The Adjutant General of Maryland, Major General George M. Gelston, commanded the National Guard force and also was given control of local and state police forces in the city (approximately 1,900 police officers).

The combined National Guard and police force proved unable to contain the uprising and on Sunday, April 7, federal troops were requested. Late that evening, elements of the XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, North Carolina began arriving on the scene, while several Marine units from Camp Lejeune were put on standby status. With the intervention of federal forces, the Maryland National Guard was called into federal duty, resulting in a shift from state control (reporting to the Governor of Maryland) to federal control (reporting through the Army chain of command to the President). The federal force, Task Force Baltimore, was organized into three brigades and a reserve. These were (roughly), the XVIII Airborne Corps troops, the Maryland National Guard, and troops from the 197th Infantry Brigade from Fort Benning, Georgia (which arrived two days later). The 1,300 troops of the Maryland Air National Guard were organized in a provisional battalion and used to guard critical infrastructure throughout the city, as well as an ad hoc detention facility at the Baltimore Civic Center. Task Force Baltimore peaked at 11,570 Army and National Guard troops on April 9, of which all but about 500 were committed to riot control duties.

Unrest continued for several days as the Task Force sought to reassert control. Early on April 12, federal troops began to depart and by 6 pm that evening responsibility for riot control returned to the National Guard. At midnight Task Force Baltimore ceased to exist and the remainder of federal troops were withdrawn. Maryland National Guard troops remained on duty in the city until April 14, when Maryland Governor Spiro Agnew declared the emergency over and sent them home.

After action reports credited both the National Guard and active Army forces for being extremely disciplined and restrained in dealing with the disturbance, with only four shots fired by National Guard troops and two by active Army troops.[8] These forces had received orders to avoid firing their weapons, as part of an intentional strategy to decrease fatalities.

A total of 10,956 troops had been deployed.


DC : On Friday, April 5, President Johnson dispatched 11,850 federal troops and 1,750 D.C. Army National Guardsmen to assist the overwhelmed D.C. police force. Marines mounted machine guns on the steps of the Capitol and Army soldiers from the 3rd Infantry Regiment guarded the White House. The 2nd Brigade Combat Team of the 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg, North Carolina and 6th Cavalry Regiment from Fort Meade, Maryland were among the principal federal forces sent to the city. At one point, on April 5, rioting reached within two blocks of the White House before rioters retreated. The occupation of Washington was the largest of any American city since the Civil War.

Federal troops and National Guardsmen imposed a strict curfew, worked riot control, patrolled the streets, guarded looted stores, and provided aid to those who were displaced by the rioting. They continued to remain after the rioting had officially ceased to protect against a second riot and further damage.

By Sunday, April 8, when the city was considered pacified, 13 people had been killed in fires, by police officers, or by rioters. An additional 1,097 people were injured and over 7,600 people were arrested


Recalling 1968, I did not consider it unreasonable last summer for Trump to deploy the DC National Guard & stage active duty troops nearby (which were not deployed).
Kent State looked like war too....race war never crossed my mind this past summer and not sure those hot summer riots were characterized as “race wars”....not to say some people didn’t see it that way....eye of the beholder type stuff.
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DMac wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:57 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm What we saw this summer reminded me a lot of the late '60's....not the pleasant memories part.
Sure did. I thought a lot of progress had been made as a result of those days, but silly me, I guess.
That's not to say no progress has been made though.
Progress has been slow and steady. Good recap of where we have been: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/hist ... -not-1968/

Hasn’t been easy but we have been dragging our feet at every turn. Appeasing the south didn’t help. My guess is that we are about 100 years behind where we should be as a nation. Wasted a lot of time and energy from approximately emancipation up until 1960’s civil rights legislation.
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Some is going to have to convince me that Petey didn’t hack Trump’s account!!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 63426?s=21

I can’t believe 70 million people voted for this guy!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 16513?s=21

Read this stuff aloud to your kids and then say “I support this guy” with a straight face!

😂😂😂
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seacoaster wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:11 pm Trump PA Case Dismissed: "this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations... this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state."

"Plaintiffs seek to remedy denial of their votes by invalidating the votes of millions of others. Rather than requesting that their votes be counted, they seek to discredit scores of other votes, but only for one race. This is simply not how the Constitution works.”

Kraken? Rudy’s crackin’

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... ng-MTD.pdf
The next step will be interesting. Will Rudy and the Squid try to go directly to the Supreme Court or will they go the more conventional route and appeal to the Third Circuit?

Either way, I hope Rudy writes the brief and argues the case. Probably will be sure his hair dye has dried or set or whatever hair dye is supposed to do.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 71368?s=21

This stuff is pure gold!!! This is The President of The United States of America

😂😂😂😂😂
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njbill wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:46 pm
seacoaster wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:11 pm Trump PA Case Dismissed: "this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations... this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state."

"Plaintiffs seek to remedy denial of their votes by invalidating the votes of millions of others. Rather than requesting that their votes be counted, they seek to discredit scores of other votes, but only for one race. This is simply not how the Constitution works.”

Kraken? Rudy’s crackin’

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... ng-MTD.pdf
The next step will be interesting. Will Rudy and the Squid try to go directly to the Supreme Court or will they go the more conventional route and appeal to the Third Circuit?

Either way, I hope Rudy writes the brief and argues the case. Probably will be sure his hair dye has dried or set or whatever hair dye is supposed to do.
Rudy and Jenna-The-Make-Believe-Lawyer issued a statement hoping they get a fair shake from the Third Circuit and expressed happiness that Brann's decision at least gets them headed to the SCOTUS. Jenna Ellis may be the dumbest person I've ever seen with a law degree.
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So what happens if Pennsylvania has already certified, which I expect they will do on Monday, by the time the case gets to the Third Circuit or the Supreme Court? One would think either court would be quite reluctant to order a “decertification.”
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 87686?s=21

This is “do to”..... Dude is as dumb as a stone.
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Not only dumb as a stone, he's got a <25% RDQ too.

Table-1: Quality of rocks and their RQD
Rock Quality RQD (%)
Very poor (Completely weathered rock) <25%
Poor (weathered rocks) 25 to 50%
Fair (Moderately weathered rocks) 51 to 75%
Good (Hard Rock) 76 to 90%
Very Good (Fresh rocks) 91 to 100%
Rocks Core Recovery and RQD Calculations
https://theconstructor.org/geotechnical ... ion/20536/
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CU77 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:04 pm
seacoaster wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:53 pm Nice vent about the Chief POS:

https://gfile.thedispatch.com/p/this-wa ... s-the-plan
Jonah Goldberg. Well said, and I agree 1000%.

Re the Wales reference: recently watched "A Man for All Seasons". Highly recommended.

But actually Wales is pretty nice. I want to go see the castle where the Ozymandias scenes in Watchmen were filmed. And also Portmeiron, where The Prisoner (the 60s TV original, not the awful AMC reimagination of the few years back, even if it did have Ian McKellan as #2) was filmed.



Be seeing you.
My wife’s family is from North Wales, we’ve been over many times, great country. If you do go to Bangor to see Penrhyn Castle, make sure to visit Conway Castle only about 15 miles away, Beaumaris Castle less than 10 miles and especially see Caernarfon Castle, also about 10 miles down the road. Conway and Caernarfon both great examples of walled cities. The investiture of Prince Charles was held at Caernarfon Castle.
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DMac wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:22 pm Not only dumb as a stone, he's got a <25% RDQ too.

Table-1: Quality of rocks and their RQD
Rock Quality RQD (%)
Very poor (Completely weathered rock) <25%
Poor (weathered rocks) 25 to 50%
Fair (Moderately weathered rocks) 51 to 75%
Good (Hard Rock) 76 to 90%
Very Good (Fresh rocks) 91 to 100%
Rocks Core Recovery and RQD Calculations
https://theconstructor.org/geotechnical ... ion/20536/
Takes me back to geology! He’s Igneous!!
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:25 pm
DMac wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:57 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm What we saw this summer reminded me a lot of the late '60's....not the pleasant memories part.
Sure did. I thought a lot of progress had been made as a result of those days, but silly me, I guess.
That's not to say no progress has been made though.
Progress has been slow and steady. Good recap of where we have been: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/hist ... -not-1968/

Hasn’t been easy but we have been dragging our feet at every turn. Appeasing the south didn’t help. My guess is that we are about 100 years behind where we should be as a nation. Wasted a lot of time and energy from approximately emancipation up until 1960’s civil rights legislation.
....so divert & waste even more time & energy bickering over terminology like race war. ...incessantly.
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old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:25 pm
DMac wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:57 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm What we saw this summer reminded me a lot of the late '60's....not the pleasant memories part.
Sure did. I thought a lot of progress had been made as a result of those days, but silly me, I guess.
That's not to say no progress has been made though.
Progress has been slow and steady. Good recap of where we have been: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/hist ... -not-1968/

Hasn’t been easy but we have been dragging our feet at every turn. Appeasing the south didn’t help. My guess is that we are about 100 years behind where we should be as a nation. Wasted a lot of time and energy from approximately emancipation up until 1960’s civil rights legislation.
....so divert & waste even more time & energy bickering over terminology like race war. ...incessantly.
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njbill wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:35 pm So what happens if Pennsylvania has already certified, which I expect they will do on Monday, by the time the case gets to the Third Circuit or the Supreme Court? One would think either court would be quite reluctant to order a “decertification.”
I'm nt sure the Supreme Court would find the votes to grant the petition to appeal in the first place; the case is really that bad. But you're right: decertification of the entirety of the state's votes in -- what? -- a week or so even, seems like a pretty tough remedy.

I wonder if Jenna has been promised a spot on the inevitable show?

Here's a fun tweet:

https://twitter.com/Dsjulin/status/1330302405427290112

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Interesting thread here on Twitter, where someone is posting all the possible voting fraud claims from 2016....by many of the media outlets now claiming it is ludicrous. https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/stat ... 76834?s=20

Diebold was dropped b/c a federal judged demanded it be dropped: From PBS. https://twitter.com/i/status/1330379415952515072

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. https://twitter.com/ChapoUnleashed/stat ... 61888?s=20

No, I am not saying Trump won.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am Interesting thread here on Twitter, where someone is posting all the possible voting fraud claims from 2016....by many of the media outlets now claiming it is ludicrous. https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/stat ... 76834?s=20

Diebold was dropped b/c a federal judged demanded it be dropped: From PBS. https://twitter.com/i/status/1330379415952515072

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. https://twitter.com/ChapoUnleashed/stat ... 61888?s=20

No, I am not saying Trump won.
So cyber security isn’t a risk? Is the problem mail in voting or in person voting? Maybe we should just go with a kingdom?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am Interesting thread here on Twitter, where someone is posting all the possible voting fraud claims from 2016....by many of the media outlets now claiming it is ludicrous. https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/stat ... 76834?s=20

Diebold was dropped b/c a federal judged demanded it be dropped: From PBS. https://twitter.com/i/status/1330379415952515072

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. https://twitter.com/ChapoUnleashed/stat ... 61888?s=20

No, I am not saying Trump won.
So cyber security isn’t a risk? Is the problem mail in voting or in person voting? Maybe we should just go with a kingdom?
?
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:22 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am Interesting thread here on Twitter, where someone is posting all the possible voting fraud claims from 2016....by many of the media outlets now claiming it is ludicrous. https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/stat ... 76834?s=20

Diebold was dropped b/c a federal judged demanded it be dropped: From PBS. https://twitter.com/i/status/1330379415952515072

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. https://twitter.com/ChapoUnleashed/stat ... 61888?s=20

No, I am not saying Trump won.
So cyber security isn’t a risk? Is the problem mail in voting or in person voting? Maybe we should just go with a kingdom?
?
? Can’t remember what the problem is....voting machines, mail in votes, both or it depends in who won? Your guy Rudy figured out this plot in about 10 days. He is a genius. We should make people pay to vote.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 248542002/
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:25 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:22 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am Interesting thread here on Twitter, where someone is posting all the possible voting fraud claims from 2016....by many of the media outlets now claiming it is ludicrous. https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/stat ... 76834?s=20

Diebold was dropped b/c a federal judged demanded it be dropped: From PBS. https://twitter.com/i/status/1330379415952515072

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. https://twitter.com/ChapoUnleashed/stat ... 61888?s=20

No, I am not saying Trump won.
So cyber security isn’t a risk? Is the problem mail in voting or in person voting? Maybe we should just go with a kingdom?
?
? Can’t remember what the problem is....voting machines, mail in votes, both or it depends in who won? Your guy Rudy figured out this plot in about 10 days. He is a genius. We should make people pay to vote.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 248542002/
Hell...they should just hire you to do everything, maybe Biden can make you the Consultant Czar, you can just run around and ask questions all day and post links proving why you are always right. I'd vote for you. ;)
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:37 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:25 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:22 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:03 am Interesting thread here on Twitter, where someone is posting all the possible voting fraud claims from 2016....by many of the media outlets now claiming it is ludicrous. https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/stat ... 76834?s=20

Diebold was dropped b/c a federal judged demanded it be dropped: From PBS. https://twitter.com/i/status/1330379415952515072

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. https://twitter.com/ChapoUnleashed/stat ... 61888?s=20

No, I am not saying Trump won.
So cyber security isn’t a risk? Is the problem mail in voting or in person voting? Maybe we should just go with a kingdom?
?
? Can’t remember what the problem is....voting machines, mail in votes, both or it depends in who won? Your guy Rudy figured out this plot in about 10 days. He is a genius. We should make people pay to vote.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 248542002/
Hell...they should just hire you to do everything, maybe Biden can make you the Consultant Czar, you can just run around and ask questions all day and post links proving why you are always right. I'd vote for you. ;)
Nah....you da man for it. Rudy on to something? Your guy got robbed? Wait a minute...is it the machines or mail in?

Another Twitter dude...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/sta ... 28935?s=21
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