Sorry Matt, it's the Boomer in me...Matnum PI wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:37 am For what it's worth, that list was a scrap paper list used to make a list of grievances before creating the actual list that they submitted to the AD. Also, this is an ongoing legal case so it's entirely possible that the grievances were more real than many in this thread are recognizing. Bottomline, we don't have all the information.
Don't be embarrassed for the parents. It's my understanding that the entire team went to the AD looking for assistance to address the various issues with the coach once it was realized this coach would not listen to them. Read the entire "draft" list of complaints--Doesn't fight for his players, zero care to form any relationships, excessive punishments...There is context behind every one of them that you are not aware of. What coach doesn't go out and check on injured players laying on the field? What coach tells the players to take chances, but if they do and fail they are yanked from game, screamed at on sidelines, and not allowed to go back in? What coach doesn't stop one time on a 13 hour bus ride to eat. What coach, doesn't let the players (after a win mind you) go across the field and address family members who came to watch? Then scream at them in the locker room and give them an ultimatum that if they don't start listening they are gone? (again this was after a win) Every one of the players chose to play at YH (most had many offers). A new coach needs to come in and EARN respect, not demand it. I won't even get into all of the coaching blunders he made in the first games. Just because you played the game, doesn't always mean you can coach as well. Some of the bonehead moves this coach made were head scratchers to say the least. At the end of the day, this AD and admin failed the students. A simple sit down with coach, AD, and players most likely resolves any issues. Cancelling a season was not the answer. So for all of you on this board, that want to bash the players, and focus on the "hat wearing" issue only--there's a LOT more to this story than you are aware of. Go ahead if that makes you feel better. Every one of these players will be just fine. And...hopefully this 27 year old coach learned a lesson about how to interact with his players.shaadb-man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:55 pm I was surprised to see this as their reasoning for wanting a new coach and kind of goes to show how delusional they are. Best D in D2?!?! What are they talking about
One of the big problems today is parents doing everything for their kids, they don't let them fail and learn how to deal with adversity through failure. It's ok to fail that is how you learn to be stronger and I don't know if these guys know how to deal with adversity very well.
simple note from the goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NEQdqA48Y
I can't image the arrogance of someone that would put legs to these ill conceived ideas telling these professional educators and Coaches that they know more. Not sure what point you feel was being made, but from your statement and rolling eyes emoji it sounds like you are siding with the coach and AD on this. Remember that every single player on that team went to the AD for direction. Not just a few underclassmen who were complaining about playing time. Seems like human nature for a coach to come in, get to know his players and earn their respect. He did not recruit any of them. He was not the reason they were there. He had a young, but talented group of players. This should be a young lacrosse coaches dream, but when you feel mistreated as a team, and the coach threatens to bench you, throw you off the team and could care less if you leave---A team turns to the AD for help in addressing the issues. Again, a simple sit down with coach, AD and team would have resolved this whole situation. The impression of the mens lacrosse culture was toxic. Some one tell me how 24 of the 32 players who are underclassmen were all of a sudden toxic. 27-32 players received academic achievement awards the prior semester. More than any team on that campus. Where is this a toxic team culture? It is my opinion that the AD and admin let these players down.laxmarmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:29 am Well thanks for proving the point most are trying to make. Can it be said that any Coach make's mistakes or errors in judgements, of course, who among us if flawless ? This Coach is an explayer at the college level, who then went on the serve as an Asst. at a ranked team, so there is more than a few years of experience in his backround. Vs players with no proven leadership skills or experience, telling the Coach, and Admin. that they know what is best.
I know YHC Men's Lacrosse team will recover and once again take the field filled with goals to fulfill and hopes of proving themselves on the field. My best wishes will go out the team and Coaching staff, on the positive side the Coach can get a jump on the recruiting trail and find players that are more about their education both on and off the field than they opinions being heard.
LaxCoach13 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:20 pm Has this been confirmed? Not trying to stir things up, but I want to know what AD's are thinking when they hire a guy with only 3 years of Asst experience, not much older then his players and then don't give him support or help. Really a lot of the complaints could have handled and a lot of them on the surface look very petty but that is also the generation you are dealing with they are used to having their way, trophies for everyone and bulldozer parents who don't think their kid does anything wrong. Good AD's don't jump to conclusions and listen and use common sense, AD's that are worrying about politics jump to keep the kids and parents happy and don't support or help their coaches.
I feel the AD was in a tough spot and afraid she could not find the right person, it really is going to take the right person to turn this around but I agree there is time and the right person is out there but they need to really care about the program and the kids and not just go through the motions/laxmarmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:40 pm Why ? is the question. One would think that a forward thinking program would allow the newly hired HC a chance to go recruit himself a team even if it would sit out next season. At first look, it seems the school took the easy out and tossed everything out the window, I am so tired of this "tough decision"statement. This isn't even July, could they have made the same decision in early September ? Thus providing the HC and staff more of an opportunity to pull together a team. Yes the the staff have an uphill fight in selling the school and the program to some fresh faces, but that's what HC's are hired, in part, to do. But maybe the foul taste the last team left in the mouth of the Staff and Administration was so bad that just didn't have the stomach for it. Well I really hope they all get it together and find someone that can pull the program back together and that it happens sooner rather than later. Good school, good facilities, nice location, yes out in the country but come you can't have it all.
