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[MDlaxfan76]

Did you read part of what you quoted? He literally states that he was willing to defend Kavanaughs past indiscretions had of behaved better during confirmation and acknowledged less than stellar behavior when younger.

Literally not that far up in what you quoted.

I read what he said. He also has spent alot of time on the bandwagon that believed Kavanaugh was guilty of sexually assaulting a woman who could not remember anything about the assault except that it was Kavanaugh that did it. He never gave him the benefit of the doubt. Guilty until proven innocent. Was there ever a time in Teddies life where he tried to redeem himself from a lifetime of bad behavior? He was the Lion of the Senate. In the eyes of the judgmental FLP folks around here, there was never redemption for Kavanaugh the pig that he was. I call call that a double standard. If you can explain the hypocrisy on this issue I am glad to hear it. I only hope you don't start with "you know Kennedy is dead"

Actually I agree as to the hypocrisy of those who rip Kav but give Kennedy a pass (if/when there are any who actually do give him a pass).

I don't give either a pass for their flaws and mistakes, but I do see each as having other character virtues worth recognizing as well. Particularly as they matured.

Yes, I do believe that Kav drunkenly made mistakes early in his life. I also find compelling his more mature behaviors with women.

When I point out that Trump's flaws are far more numerous and run throughout every aspect of his life, and throughout his life, that flips people out. I simply have difficulty finding ANY character aspects of Trump worthy of respect.

Others don't see it that way, which is their right.

[Peter Brown]

MD, again, showing his Democratic skin.

What 'good legislative work' did Ted Kennedy do? Every useless piece of legislation passed or proposed by Ted was one more charge on the guv credit card.

Here is the hard stop: when you kill someone and run from the scene of the crime, guess what, you don't get a pass. You attend a local penitentiary.

And if you are fortunate to get out before you die, then do something valuable like start a company and change people's lives, or go work for someone else and increase value for someone else, or barring all that, go work at a charity. What you don't do is layer on more suffocating legislation. America had enough laws on the books 50 years ago. Every law passed since was a woke knee-bend to the mob, to keep them from invading doer's homes.

Guess what, the doers are getting tired of carrying Democrats. You see that every day with moves out of CA, NY, NJ, CT, and IL. You are even seeing people abandon the US. Stop with the nonsense of stroking Ted's legacy like he had any value; he was a net thief, especially to the Kopechne's, no matter how much coin the Kennedy Trust paid their family to keep quiet.

[cradleandshoot]

Did you read part of what you quoted? He literally states that he was willing to defend Kavanaughs past indiscretions had of behaved better during confirmation and acknowledged less than stellar behavior when younger.

Literally not that far up in what you quoted.

I read what he said. He also has spent alot of time on the bandwagon that believed Kavanaugh was guilty of sexually assaulting a woman who could not remember anything about the assault except that it was Kavanaugh that did it. He never gave him the benefit of the doubt. Guilty until proven innocent. Was there ever a time in Teddies life where he tried to redeem himself from a lifetime of bad behavior? He was the Lion of the Senate. In the eyes of the judgmental FLP folks around here, there was never redemption for Kavanaugh the pig that he was. I call call that a double standard. If you can explain the hypocrisy on this issue I am glad to hear it. I only hope you don't start with "you know Kennedy is dead"

Actually I agree as to the hypocrisy of those who rip Kav but give Kennedy a pass (if/when there are any who actually do give him a pass).

I don't give either a pass for their flaws and mistakes, but I do see each as having other character virtues worth recognizing as well. Particularly as they matured.

Yes, I do believe that Kav drunkenly made mistakes early in his life. I also find compelling his more mature behaviors with women.

When I point out that Trump's flaws are far more numerous and run throughout every aspect of his life, and throughout his life, that flips people out. I simply have difficulty finding ANY character aspects of Trump worthy of respect.

Others don't see it that way, which is their right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... n-die.html When I read this article it is amazing the similarities between Teddy and Donald. The only thing Trump lacks is being a chronic alcoholic. I never knew Teddy was thrown out of Haaavhad for cheating on a test. You talk about laying the groundwork for a successful career in politics.

[Brooklyn]

What 'good legislative work' did Ted Kennedy do? Every useless piece of legislation passed or proposed by Ted was one more charge on the guv credit card.

Here is the hard stop: when you kill someone and run from the scene of the crime, guess what, you don't get a pass. You attend a local penitentiary.

- guv credit card?

The military industrial complex's corporate welfare neatly fits that bill as well.


- penitentiary?

That's where Bush belongs for his lies about imaginary WMD. See The Downing Street Memo.

[MDlaxfan76]

Did you read part of what you quoted? He literally states that he was willing to defend Kavanaughs past indiscretions had of behaved better during confirmation and acknowledged less than stellar behavior when younger.

Literally not that far up in what you quoted.

I read what he said. He also has spent alot of time on the bandwagon that believed Kavanaugh was guilty of sexually assaulting a woman who could not remember anything about the assault except that it was Kavanaugh that did it. He never gave him the benefit of the doubt. Guilty until proven innocent. Was there ever a time in Teddies life where he tried to redeem himself from a lifetime of bad behavior? He was the Lion of the Senate. In the eyes of the judgmental FLP folks around here, there was never redemption for Kavanaugh the pig that he was. I call call that a double standard. If you can explain the hypocrisy on this issue I am glad to hear it. I only hope you don't start with "you know Kennedy is dead"

Actually I agree as to the hypocrisy of those who rip Kav but give Kennedy a pass (if/when there are any who actually do give him a pass).

I don't give either a pass for their flaws and mistakes, but I do see each as having other character virtues worth recognizing as well. Particularly as they matured.

Yes, I do believe that Kav drunkenly made mistakes early in his life. I also find compelling his more mature behaviors with women.

When I point out that Trump's flaws are far more numerous and run throughout every aspect of his life, and throughout his life, that flips people out. I simply have difficulty finding ANY character aspects of Trump worthy of respect.

Others don't see it that way, which is their right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... n-die.html When I read this article it is amazing the similarities between Teddy and Donald. The only thing Trump lacks is being a chronic alcoholic. I never knew Teddy was thrown out of Haaavhad for cheating on a test. You talk about laying the groundwork for a successful career in politics.

Yes, I knew all this about Ted Kennedy.
Yes, Trump apparently doesn't drink...we don't know whether he uses some sort of other drug though, certainly it's been suspected. But not alcohol.
You may note that many of Ted's issues revolved around his drinking, maybe some self loathing as well but that's armchair psychology.

So, what we may be saying is that Trump makes all his dishonest and venal choices throughout his life cold sober?

I realize that his fans would say that he does some good for others with his policies...but throughout his life what has he EVER done for others, for society, that was not actually to benefit himself? He built an ice rink?

[Farfromgeneva]

Oh Trump definitely gets down with the YaYo. “Hanging our with Charlie”. “Sucking up the booger sugar”.

[cradleandshoot]

Did you read part of what you quoted? He literally states that he was willing to defend Kavanaughs past indiscretions had of behaved better during confirmation and acknowledged less than stellar behavior when younger.

Literally not that far up in what you quoted.

I read what he said. He also has spent alot of time on the bandwagon that believed Kavanaugh was guilty of sexually assaulting a woman who could not remember anything about the assault except that it was Kavanaugh that did it. He never gave him the benefit of the doubt. Guilty until proven innocent. Was there ever a time in Teddies life where he tried to redeem himself from a lifetime of bad behavior? He was the Lion of the Senate. In the eyes of the judgmental FLP folks around here, there was never redemption for Kavanaugh the pig that he was. I call call that a double standard. If you can explain the hypocrisy on this issue I am glad to hear it. I only hope you don't start with "you know Kennedy is dead"

Actually I agree as to the hypocrisy of those who rip Kav but give Kennedy a pass (if/when there are any who actually do give him a pass).

I don't give either a pass for their flaws and mistakes, but I do see each as having other character virtues worth recognizing as well. Particularly as they matured.

Yes, I do believe that Kav drunkenly made mistakes early in his life. I also find compelling his more mature behaviors with women.

When I point out that Trump's flaws are far more numerous and run throughout every aspect of his life, and throughout his life, that flips people out. I simply have difficulty finding ANY character aspects of Trump worthy of respect.

Others don't see it that way, which is their right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... n-die.html When I read this article it is amazing the similarities between Teddy and Donald. The only thing Trump lacks is being a chronic alcoholic. I never knew Teddy was thrown out of Haaavhad for cheating on a test. You talk about laying the groundwork for a successful career in politics.

Yes, I knew all this about Ted Kennedy.
Yes, Trump apparently doesn't drink...we don't know whether he uses some sort of other drug though, certainly it's been suspected. But not alcohol.
You may note that many of Ted's issues revolved around his drinking, maybe some self loathing as well but that's armchair psychology.

So, what we may be saying is that Trump makes all his dishonest and venal choices throughout his life cold sober?

I realize that his fans would say that he does some good for others with his policies...but throughout his life what has he EVER done for others, for society, that was not actually to benefit himself? He built an ice rink?

I still stick by my analogy. Trump and Teddy are two very similar types of people. Trump just is not the drunk that Teddy was. I hope that years from now history will judge each person with equal scorn for being rotten people who on rare occasions did good things.

[Trinity]

Many similarities but I don’t remember Teddy as a fountain of self-pity.

[Kismet]

Many similarities but I don’t remember Teddy as a fountain of self-pity.

Yeah and do let us know the "good" things Trump has done in his life for anyone other than himself or for his own benefit.

[cradleandshoot]

Many similarities but I don’t remember Teddy as a fountain of self-pity.

I doubt he was ever sober long enough to feel self pity.

[Trinity]

SNL once called Teddy the Last 65 year-old to go on Spring Break.

[Peter Brown]

Anyone interested in seeing a typical liberal woman from the Northeast, and how they act during a lockdown?

Here comes Nicole Griggs, a public school teacher from Trenton NJ (almost 110% assuredly a Democrat lest you have any doubt) yelling at some young boys playing football outside.

Let me offer a few descriptions of Nicole:

snitchy
hall monitor
sanctimonious
hate-filled
authoritarian
lifelessly sexless

How do you fella's put up with this kind of woman?

https://www.trentonian.com/news/hamilto ... 8dffd.html

[Peter Brown]

The funniest part of this photo is she'd take the job if offered!

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[a fan]

Anyone interested in seeing a typical liberal woman from the Northeast, and how they act during a lockdown?

Here comes Nicole Griggs, a public school teacher from Trenton NJ (almost 110% assuredly a Democrat lest you have any doubt) yelling at some young boys playing football outside.

Let me offer a few descriptions of Nicole:

snitchy
hall monitor
sanctimonious
hate-filled
authoritarian
lifelessly sexless

How do you fella's put up with this kind of woman?

https://www.trentonian.com/news/hamilto ... 8dffd.html

Uh-oh Petey. Does this video tell the whole story, or just part of the story?

Didn't take you long to pull a Covington HS, now did it?

[Peter Brown]

Anyone interested in seeing a typical liberal woman from the Northeast, and how they act during a lockdown?

Here comes Nicole Griggs, a public school teacher from Trenton NJ (almost 110% assuredly a Democrat lest you have any doubt) yelling at some young boys playing football outside.

Let me offer a few descriptions of Nicole:

snitchy
hall monitor
sanctimonious
hate-filled
authoritarian
lifelessly sexless

How do you fella's put up with this kind of woman?

https://www.trentonian.com/news/hamilto ... 8dffd.html

Uh-oh Petey. Does this video tell the whole story, or just part of the story?

Didn't take you long to pull a Covington HS, now did it?

I don't know, perhaps...the video shows her clearly saying to a group of teenagers "I hope you die a long painful death". Is there context that the world is missing but you know of?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html

[a fan]

I don't know, perhaps...the video shows her clearly saying to a group of teenagers "I hope you die a long painful death". Is there context that the world is missing but you know of?

You don't know the context, buddy...that's the whole point.

What's more? You don't CARE what the context is.

This is the EXACT thing you complained about with the Covington story...and all media bias, remember?

Pot. Kettle. You just can't help yourself.

[Peter Brown]

I don't know, perhaps...the video shows her clearly saying to a group of teenagers "I hope you die a long painful death". Is there context that the world is missing but you know of?

You don't know the context, buddy...that's the whole point.

What's more? You don't CARE what the context is.

This is the EXACT thing you complained about with the Covington story...and all media bias, remember?

Pot. Kettle. You just can't help yourself.

Uhhh, no. The world was misled on Covington because there was a much longer video which showed Sandman was actually trying to help diffuse the situation. Is there a longer video here? All I see is a rabidly hateful leftists telling a bunch of boys, none of whom risk even a percent of being harmed by Covid, that she hopes they all die a long painful death.

Help me out and explain the context that might make me hate her less. Thx!

[a fan]

Uhhh, no. The world was misled on Covington because there was a much longer video which showed Sandman was actually trying to help diffuse the situation.

You still don't get it.

What if that longer video didn't exist for the Covington? Now what?

The point you seem to be missing, and I can't fathom why, is that all news is biased and wholly dependent on perspective. What you, Trump, and FoxNation have been selling for the last 20 years....and especially the last 3 years.... is that media bias was "invented" about a week ago.

And that this bias didn't exist in America in the 50's, 60's, etc.

This is laughable, of course.

Is there a longer video here? All I see is a rabidly hateful leftists telling a bunch of boys, none of whom risk even a percent of being harmed by Covid, that she hopes they all die a long painful death.

Did they say anything to her first?

YOU DON'T KNOW. Get it?

I can't believe I have to explain this to you......the king of complaining about media bias, and only getting half of a story doesn't get it......

[Peter Brown]

Uhhh, no. The world was misled on Covington because there was a much longer video which showed Sandman was actually trying to help diffuse the situation.

You still don't get it.

What if that longer video didn't exist for the Covington? Now what?

The point you seem to be missing, and I can't fathom why, is that all news is biased and wholly dependent on perspective. What you, Trump, and FoxNation have been selling for the last 20 years....and especially the last 3 years.... is that media bias was "invented" about a week ago.

And that this bias didn't exist in America in the 50's, 60's, etc.

This is laughable, of course.

Is there a longer video here? All I see is a rabidly hateful leftists telling a bunch of boys, none of whom risk even a percent of being harmed by Covid, that she hopes they all die a long painful death.

Did they say anything to her first?

YOU DON'T KNOW. Get it?

I can't believe I have to explain this to you......the king of complaining about media bias, and only getting half of a story doesn't get it......

a fan, I woke up today anxious to read the broader context of one Nicole Griggs.

I simply can not locate that broader context story, 24 hours later. You implied that surely there is broader context.

Would you please find that story and post so the board can have a more open mind before a simpleton like me simply avers that the typical northeast female liberal public school teacher is a rather wretched figure as embodied by Ms. Griggs? I want to be sure before saying so again. Thanks!

[a fan]

I simply can not locate that broader context story, 24 hours later. You implied that surely there is broader context.

That's not what I implied at all...you're not paying attention. I'm not implying anything: i'm TELLING you that YOU DON'T KNOW if there is a broader context or not. And because it's a nothing-story, what reporter would bother following up to see if there was a broader context? Or in the case of the Covington case...having Daddy hire a lawyer because someone got the story "wrong", not knowing there was a second video.

So what I am telling you, for the third time, is that you are making the EXACT same assumption that those who went after those Covington boys did.

-do the kids and this lady have a history? You don't know.
-did the kids say something that provoked her right before the kids turned their phone-video on? You don't know.

You simply don't know. THAT is my point.