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We all agree it needs a LOT of attention and money. What's the holdup??

John Oliver takes a closer look. Lengthy, but really great video...



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Washington's ideas and letters on building of the Potomac infrastructure:


http://americanhistory.si.edu/documents ... ter_5.html

''“...the inland Navigation of this Commonwealth where it may be useful & practicable . . . will not only be of amazing convenience & advantage to its Citizens, but sources of immense wealth to the Country. . ''


https://www.mountvernon.org/george-wash ... s-capital/

''his long-held determination to see the Potomac River succeed as the economic marrow of the new nation, Washington involved himself in almost all aspects of the project from 1790 until his death in 1799''




Alexander Hamilton: Report On Manufactures

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_on_Manufactures



Governor DeWitt Clinton and building NYS infrastructure:

https://www.aiany.org/news/istorian-loo ... al-change/






Essay on infrastructure building:


http://www.cts.umn.edu/events/oberstar/ ... choberstar


"Confronting the challenges facing the national transportation network will require a clear vision and a willingness of all levels of government to provide the resources and the tools to finance and develop the upgrades necessary to address current and future mobility needs. The significant progress the nation has made in developing and expanding its intermodal transportation network has been achieved with strong public sector leadership, vision, and commitment."




History shows this is and has always been done by government. And, as proven before, Marx wasn't even born yet when this started.
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WHEN AMERICA'S INFRASTRUCTURE SAVED DEMOCRACY
FDR's dedication to infrastructure saved America once. Could it happen again?



https://www.popularmechanics.com/techno ... structure/


"It's all falling into ruin now because we decided we didn't have to maintain it," says Gray Brechin, geographer and founder of the online archive The Living New Deal, "Thank god, they built it all as well as they did."

During the recent presidential campaign, President Donald Trump made a promise to reinvest in America's infrastructure. In fact, the topic was one of the few pieces of actual policy mentioned during his victory speech. But even the trillion dollars he's pledged would only partially make up the gap to get to $3.6 trillion—that's what the American Society of Civil Engineers estimated in 2013 would be needed by 2020 to rebuild America.

As this new administration takes office, it's worth looking back at the last time American infrastructure saved the country.





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8 dollars returned for every 1 dollar spent - historically - on needed infrastructure improvements. But hey lets give the .1% an un-needed tax break. President lack of brains could have had his infrastructure bill 2 years ago if he had made it the priority he said it was during the campaign and would have had 100% democratic support and more than enough republican support to have passed it in both houses - easily. But he wasted his money on the tax break for his rich criminal friends. Could have gotten his wall as part of the deal. Established goodwill. Guaranteed himself a second term.

Instead we have infrastructure Thursdays. :lol: What a wanker.
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:31 am 8 dollars returned for every 1 dollar spent - historically - on needed infrastructure improvements. But hey lets give the .1% an un-needed tax break. President lack of brains could have had his infrastructure bill 2 years ago if he had made it the priority he said it was during the campaign and would have had 100% democratic support and more than enough republican support to have passed it in both houses - easily. But he wasted his money on the tax break for his rich criminal friends. Could have gotten his wall as part of the deal. Established goodwill. Guaranteed himself a second term.

Instead we have infrastructure Thursdays. :lol: What a wanker.
I don't get the reticence for infrastructure spending from Republicans. It's the A#1 way to pay off all your supporters. See McConnell's Russian Aluminum plant in Kentucky.

These idiots can't even be corrupt right. The money would be spread to every single Congressional district as the whole doggone country is falling apart. AsK the midwest if they need some help with engineering surrounding flooding.

It's maddening. And yes, it would be an enormous win for Trump, because the money would actually help Trump's forgotten voters. I don't get it.
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a fan wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:50 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:31 am 8 dollars returned for every 1 dollar spent - historically - on needed infrastructure improvements. But hey lets give the .1% an un-needed tax break. President lack of brains could have had his infrastructure bill 2 years ago if he had made it the priority he said it was during the campaign and would have had 100% democratic support and more than enough republican support to have passed it in both houses - easily. But he wasted his money on the tax break for his rich criminal friends. Could have gotten his wall as part of the deal. Established goodwill. Guaranteed himself a second term.

Instead we have infrastructure Thursdays. :lol: What a wanker.
I don't get the reticence for infrastructure spending from Republicans. It's the A#1 way to pay off all your supporters. See McConnell's Russian Aluminum plant in Kentucky.

These idiots can't even be corrupt right. The money would be spread to every single Congressional district as the whole doggone country is falling apart. As the midwest if they need some help with engineering surrounding flooding.

It's maddening. And yes, it would be an enormous win for Trump, because the money would actually help Trump's forgotten voters. I don't get it.
Made more sense than the tax cut given where we were in the cycle.
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Won't happen now. McConnell won't give NP a win (Trump be damned). Actually we may have McConnell to thank for no Trump second term. Even now Nancy would deal. The republicans did it to themselves. Trump will not have kept his #1 and #2 biggest campaign promises - thanks to themselves. The hardcore Trump culture warriors won't care about #2 (infrastructure jobs), but the folks who took a flier and put him over the top will.
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States need to do their part as well:


State investment in transportation, public buildings, water treatment systems, and other forms of vital infrastructure is key to creating good jobs and promoting full economic recovery. States should reject the flawed economic growth strategy of cutting taxes and offering corporate giveaways, and instead identify and make investments in infrastructure that provide the foundation for a strong economy. It’s a good time for states to make those investments.

The condition of roads, bridges, schools, water treatment plants, and other physical assets greatly influences the economy’s ability to function and grow. Commerce requires well-maintained roads, railroads, airports, and ports so that manufacturers can obtain raw materials and parts and deliver finished products to consumers. Growing communities rely on well-functioning water and sewer systems. State-of-the art schools free from crowding and safety hazards improve educational opportunities for future workers. Every state needs infrastructure improvements that can pay off economically in private-sector investment and productivity growth.




more at link ... https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-bud ... astructure


Despite Republican claims to the contrary, tax cuts and corporate welfare just aren't the solution.
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a fan wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:50 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:31 am 8 dollars returned for every 1 dollar spent - historically - on needed infrastructure improvements. But hey lets give the .1% an un-needed tax break. President lack of brains could have had his infrastructure bill 2 years ago if he had made it the priority he said it was during the campaign and would have had 100% democratic support and more than enough republican support to have passed it in both houses - easily. But he wasted his money on the tax break for his rich criminal friends. Could have gotten his wall as part of the deal. Established goodwill. Guaranteed himself a second term.

Instead we have infrastructure Thursdays. :lol: What a wanker.
I don't get the reticence for infrastructure spending from Republicans. It's the A#1 way to pay off all your supporters. See McConnell's Russian Aluminum plant in Kentucky.

These idiots can't even be corrupt right. The money would be spread to every single Congressional district as the whole doggone country is falling apart. AsK the midwest if they need some help with engineering surrounding flooding.

It's maddening. And yes, it would be an enormous win for Trump, because the money would actually help Trump's forgotten voters. I don't get it.
IF he were smart (pretty big IF there huh?) Trump would announce a "bajillion" dollar infrastructure program right as the democrats begin their primaries. Pump free money and working class jobs into every damn state in the country so that folks are feeling fine just as November 2020 comes around. Make the bill pure as the driven snow - not a bit of noise in it - not a penny for the wall. Clean. and then dare the dems to not support it. He would crush every comer come 2020. But the dumba$$ is too stupid and arrogant to do anything close to that.
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From your lips to G*d's ears....

You want to help the bulk of Americans? Do exactly this. Every dam, every road, every bridge, all those levees in the MidWest. Replace them all.

The amount of work would last for 20 years. Real work. Real ROI.
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a fan wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:11 pm From your lips to G*d's ears....

You want to help the bulk of Americans? Do exactly this. Every dam, every road, every bridge, all those levees in the MidWest. Replace them all.

The amount of work would last for 20 years. Real work. Real ROI.
yep

build some bad a$$ mass transit while you are at it. Shining city on the hill type stuff.....
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Monuments. Museums. The whole deal. Agree 1000%. Shining city is a great way to put it. All the Depression era programs.


And while we're at it, offer free engineering school to anyone who can get in to a State University, and go to freaking Mars.

How do I vote for you to do this, HooDat? ;)
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HooDat wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:33 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:50 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:31 am 8 dollars returned for every 1 dollar spent - historically - on needed infrastructure improvements. But hey lets give the .1% an un-needed tax break. President lack of brains could have had his infrastructure bill 2 years ago if he had made it the priority he said it was during the campaign and would have had 100% democratic support and more than enough republican support to have passed it in both houses - easily. But he wasted his money on the tax break for his rich criminal friends. Could have gotten his wall as part of the deal. Established goodwill. Guaranteed himself a second term.

Instead we have infrastructure Thursdays. :lol: What a wanker.
I don't get the reticence for infrastructure spending from Republicans. It's the A#1 way to pay off all your supporters. See McConnell's Russian Aluminum plant in Kentucky.

These idiots can't even be corrupt right. The money would be spread to every single Congressional district as the whole doggone country is falling apart. AsK the midwest if they need some help with engineering surrounding flooding.

It's maddening. And yes, it would be an enormous win for Trump, because the money would actually help Trump's forgotten voters. I don't get it.
IF he were smart (pretty big IF there huh?) Trump would announce a "bajillion" dollar infrastructure program right as the democrats begin their primaries. Pump free money and working class jobs into every damn state in the country so that folks are feeling fine just as November 2020 comes around. Make the bill pure as the driven snow - not a bit of noise in it - not a penny for the wall. Clean. and then dare the dems to not support it. He would crush every comer come 2020. But the dumba$$ is too stupid and arrogant to do anything close to that.
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Mitch doesn't need infrastructure spending because his wife is directing tens of millions of dollars in grants to KY.

Further, Russian oligarchs are spending heavily on Mitch and have been for years.

Mitch blocked the infrastructure program Obama tried to put in place. The cost of that and the inability to get a real budget passed has delayed new projects, deferred maintenance and led to the deterioration of our ability to be competitive globally. The cost has been huge. The deferred maintenance alone is in the trillions.
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OCanada wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:36 am Mitch doesn't need infrastructure spending because his wife us directing teams of millions of dollars in grants to KY.

further Russian oligarchs are spending heavily of Mitvh and have been for years.

Mitch blocked the infrastructure program Obama tried to pout in place. The cost of that and the inability to get a real budget passed has delayed new projects, deferred maintenance and the led to the deterioration of our ability to be competitive globally. The cost has been huge. The deferred maintenance alone is in the trillions.



And the Republicans also blocked Obama's plan to close all overseas tax shelters which would have ended the USA's national debt. Yet, somehow, the right wing continued to blame Obama for that debt when they were the ones who caused and increased it.
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State budgets for infrastructure are handcuffed by Congress’ inability to get a budget in place. They need multiyear appropriations not continuing resolutions
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What the Supply Chain Crisis Reveals About American Infrastructure
We’ve gone from fruitless “infrastructure weeks” in the Trump administration to fruitless “trying to pass infrastructure and reconciliation” weeks in the Biden administration to, now, “an attempting to make our infrastructure work” week that might have to be repeated until the end of the year and beyond.

As part of a push to get our logistics unstuck, the president is prodding the Port of Los Angeles, one of the most important in the country, to operate on a 24/7 basis. This is welcome news, although it might cause most people to stop and think, “Wait a minute — our ports don’t already operate 24 hours a day?"

No, which speaks to the thick layer of irrationality that encrusts our supply chain. It’s beyond the power of any one person to change this anytime soon, but trying to scrape off as many of these encumbrances as possible should be a national priority.

We are experiencing the worst disruption of the supply chain since the advent of the shipping-container era in the late 1950s, driven, at bottom, by the pandemic. A surge in e-commerce, coupled with a labor shortage, helped to create the conditions for a spiraling series of bottlenecks.

Ships are idling waiting to unload their cargo at ports, while containers are waiting at the ports to be shipped further inland, while cargo is waiting outside full warehouses on chassis that aren’t available to use to pick up other containers, and so on. In theory, there are plenty of ships, trucks and other capacity to handle the volume, but not if so much of that capacity is tied up and frozen in place.
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finally, some progress on the passage of the infrastructure bill:


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing

The bipartisan infrastructure bill now heads to the president's desk. Mr. Biden said he won't sign it into law this weekend — "because I want people who worked so hard to get this done, Democrats and Republicans, to be here when we sign it" — but that a formal signing ceremony will be held "soon."

The bill includes $550 billion in new spending on the nation's physical infrastructure and has been praised by Mr. Biden as the largest investment in roads, bridges, ports, water and rail in decades. The measure provides $110 billion for roads, bridges and major projects, $39 billion for public transit and $66 billion for railways. It also provides $65 billion for broadband infrastructure deployment and $55 billion for clear water investments.

The vast majority of jobs that will be created, Mr. Biden said, won't require a college degree. "This is a blue collar blueprint to rebuild America, and it's long overdue," Mr. Biden said on Saturday.




https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... s-n1280527





Took a while unlike corporate welfare legislation that would expand the worthless welfare queens in the military industrial complex.
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Infrastructure week is finally here!!!
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