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Cost is a spurious argument. The MAIN reason for not having FREE ID's is EXACTLY the reason why we don't have FREE ID's.

Money.........revenue for the states. In Massachusettes (her way) anywhere from $5-$10 per year for a NON-driving ID. (Something an ILLEGAL can NOT obtain, theoritically ) Your state, a little less.

Why do we have to pay for drivers licenses or US Passports? Can't visit the Canadian side of Niagra Falls without one.........that is racist on the Canucks part.
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Look up the 24th Amendment.

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ggait wrote:Look up the 24th Amendment.

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GG gate are you claiming that a license fee is a tax now?
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What do you think of article 1 section 2 part III is that also the law That’s the beginning of the U.S. Constitution but that never counts
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Republicans facing close races in three states send voters incorrect ballot info

but...but...but...i think Dems did this in 1887, so who cares, taats and all...right?

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dislaxxic wrote:Republicans facing close races in three states send voters incorrect ballot info

but...but...but...i think Dems did this in 1887, so who cares, taats and all...right?

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Don't worry yourself sick here Dis. Election night should work out just peachy keen for your FLP candidates. ;) I think the FLPers won't win the senate but the real freak circus will take place in the house. Very likely the Democrats win and the freak show circus tent will be open for admission for all the country to see. Since I don't really give 2 figs about the US government anymore or whatever these lying piles of crud do... it will just be amusing to see it all play out. The mainstream media folks will be breathless covering all of the congressional hearings. Do you wanna bet Trump tells all of the democrat investigations to go pound salt when they start handing out subpoenas to his people? Sorry Maxine... we're busy that day. How about maybe next year. It will be more than amusing watching the FLP wing of the Dummycrats become enraged beyond belief at being stone walled by Trump. Congressional subpoenas may just as well be written on Charmin since there is no enforcement mechanism behind them. Rachel Maddow trying to knock herself unconscious with wild hand gesticulations does not count as an enforcement mechanism either... bang1
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The vast majority of us, and Americans, are independents. However, we attack and waste valuable time pointing out the obvious. tRump is a cad douche.

What is also obvious, is that we allow the media makers to control us. Was disgusted to hear on the radio, in Nov. 2016, a Syracuse Journalism professor say that non-traditional Presidential candidates are NOT worthy of press attention. They don't deserve it. They worked hard to get their names on the ballots. They campaign. Have viewpoints (agw/cc, immigration, poor, etc ) similar to most MSM pretends. Yes, ignore them.

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Florida actually has SIX gubernatorial candidates, yet we only see TWO at a debate.

https://www.miamidade.gov/elections/lib ... ection.pdf

Pretending to be "biased" websites like ballotopia fit right into the MSM/old guard college playbook. Only bios for the R and D candidates for Florida guber race.

https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_guberna ... e_profiles

In fact, you would be hard pressed to find the names of the other candidates for Gov. on this pretend to be biased website. (why I never use this Koch brothers funded website. yes, ballotopia is funded by the right)

At least Georgia had the decency to have all THREE guber candidates at the debate.
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What is going on? Why do we sit by and pretend not to notice the "fairness" of the process? Is the media coverage in your state or Congressional district seem fair to you? Do primaries held two months before the general election favor incumbents?

We spend so much time on voting rights, whatever that really means, I do not know. (Have any "liberals" ever heard a Democratic candidate utter my idea of providing FREE picture ID's to all US citizens. Nope. me neither. hmmm.....why IS that ? )
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dislaxxic wrote:Republicans facing close races in three states send voters incorrect ballot info

but...but...but...i think Dems did this in 1887, so who cares, taats and all...right?

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How Voter Suppression Imperils the Midterms
Blue wavers may find it harder to cast a ballot this fall, due to a counter-wave of policies meant to suppress the Democratic-leaning votes of the poor, the young, and minorities ...

Perhaps not surprisingly, restrictive voting laws have proliferated since the election of America’s first black President in 2008 ...

Perhaps the most worrisome voter-suppression threat this fall is purging—the practice of removing individuals from registration rolls.




https://progressive.org/magazine/how-vo ... -midterms/



All throughout the Internet there is talk of early voting ballots for Democrats in Texas being flipped by computer into votes for Republicans. This is what some call "freedom".
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It's Texas. Are you NOT allowed to carry a sidearm into the voting booth? If a computer flipped the switch, I would shoot the computer

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Brooklyn wrote:
dislaxxic wrote:Republicans facing close races in three states send voters incorrect ballot info

but...but...but...i think Dems did this in 1887, so who cares, taats and all...right?

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How Voter Suppression Imperils the Midterms
Blue wavers may find it harder to cast a ballot this fall, due to a counter-wave of policies meant to suppress the Democratic-leaning votes of the poor, the young, and minorities ...

Perhaps not surprisingly, restrictive voting laws have proliferated since the election of America’s first black President in 2008 ...

Perhaps the most worrisome voter-suppression threat this fall is purging—the practice of removing individuals from registration rolls.




https://progressive.org/magazine/how-vo ... -midterms/



All throughout the Internet there is talk of early voting ballots for Democrats in Texas being flipped by computer into votes for Republicans. This is what some call "freedom".
there was talk of the same thing the other way around during the last election - it is fear mongering garbage. The voting machines in Texas allow you to vote straight ticket. Every election, a rumor starts that the machines don't do it right.....
STILL somewhere back in the day....

...and waiting/hoping for a tinfoil hat emoji......
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HooDat wrote:
Brooklyn wrote:
dislaxxic wrote:Republicans facing close races in three states send voters incorrect ballot info

but...but...but...i think Dems did this in 1887, so who cares, taats and all...right?

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How Voter Suppression Imperils the Midterms
Blue wavers may find it harder to cast a ballot this fall, due to a counter-wave of policies meant to suppress the Democratic-leaning votes of the poor, the young, and minorities ...

Perhaps not surprisingly, restrictive voting laws have proliferated since the election of America’s first black President in 2008 ...

Perhaps the most worrisome voter-suppression threat this fall is purging—the practice of removing individuals from registration rolls.




https://progressive.org/magazine/how-vo ... -midterms/



All throughout the Internet there is talk of early voting ballots for Democrats in Texas being flipped by computer into votes for Republicans. This is what some call "freedom".
there was talk of the same thing the other way around during the last election - it is fear mongering garbage. The voting machines in Texas allow you to vote straight ticket. Every election, a rumor starts that the machines don't do it right.....
It is actually real - and the apparent artifact of how the machines are programmed. Voters using straight ticket are not waiting "long enough" for the screens to completely load, and that is screwing things up. From what I can see it is a case of horrible user interface design - there is no way you should allow the screen to be changed until it is fully loaded. There is even an explainer put out by the election people in TX.

But in any case, there is a summary screen that shows you your selections before you hit the final approval, and voters should actually look at the screen.

Or better yet, just go back to paper ballots. Yes counting can be a complain, but you have the originals to argue over after the count is over...(for a recount).
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Four women in ‘voter fraud ring’ arrested. They targeted seniors on city’s north side

Texas women accused of stealing votes
Here’s a look at the accusations, according to the indictments:

▪ Leticia Sanchez, 57, of Haltom City, faces 17 counts. She is accused of marking a voter’s ballot without his consent in March 2016, and altering and submitting applications in January and February 2016 to request ballots by mail for the Democratic Party for 2016 elections for 13 people who had made no such requests. She is also accused of providing forged signatures for three people on applications. Sanchez remained in the Tarrant County Jail at noon Friday with bail set at $1,500.

▪ Laura Parra, 24, of Fort Worth, faces one count. Parra is accused of providing a forged signature in January 2016 on an application for an early voting ballot. She was released from jail Thursday on a $1,500 bond.

▪ Leticia Sanchez Tepichin, 39, of Haltom City, faces nine counts. Tepichin is accused of providing forged signatures on two applications for early voting ballots in January and February 2016. She is also accused in seven of the counts of soliciting, encouraging, directing, aiding, or attempting to aid others in altering and submitting false information on early voting ballot applications. The false information was submitted, according to the indictment, to request ballots by mail for the Democratic Party for 2016 elections by people who had made no such request. She was being held in the Tarrant County Jail Friday at noon with bail set at $1,500.

▪ Maria Rosa Solis, 40, of Haltom City , faces two counts. Solis is accused of providing forged signatures in January 2016 on two applications for early voting ballots. She was released from jail on Friday on a $1,500 bond.

Sanchez was indicted on one court of illegal voting, a second-degree felony that could bring, if convicted, a sentence of two to 20 years in prison.

All four face felony charges for providing false information on an application for a mail ballot. Sanchez faces 16 counts, Tepichin faces 10 counts, Solis faces two counts and Parra faces one count.

Paxton’s office will prosecute the cases.


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TEXAS WOMAN ARRESTED FOR VOTER FRAUD TWICE IN TWO WEEKS

Escobar said the AG’s office is advising local authorities on what evidence to collect in Vela’s case. Vela, a former Starr County Precinct 2 employee who was fired earlier this year, assisted over 200 mail ballot voters in Starr County’s March 2018 Democratic primary. She was also arrested in 2010 on a voter fraud charge involving improper mail ballot assistance during that year’s Democratic primary.

Escobar warns mail ballots are the least secure method of voting. Prosecutors in the AG’s office told a Senate committee in February that mail ballot fraud is “by far the biggest problem we see across the state” and “the wild West of voter fraud.
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Hmmm. Where was it I read that, yeah, absentee ballots weren't secure, and were ripe for fraud? Who wrote that, again? Just can't remember

Well, SURELY Republicans who are clutching their pearls, sick to their stomachs that our elections might not be perfectly secure will immediately end
the absentee ballot system. Right, fellas? :lol:
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So, the arrests mean nothing? bang1

Also, who"s been saying voter fraud is no big deal?
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You're banging your head against the wall?

So the logic here is that if the cops catch one kid smoking weed at high school, "therefore" no other kids are smoking weed that we didn't catch.

Yeah, I'm the one who's not making sense here. ;)

And yes, I am the one who saying that it's clear as day that Republicans don't really care are about voter fraud. If they did, they'd end absentee ballot programs immediately.

But they don't. So here we are.
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Thousands of absentee-ballots discovered in postal facility, declared invalid.



https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/postal ... -district/

An anonymous tip led to the discovery of “scores” of absentee ballots in a mail distribution facility that pipe bombs traveled through — after Miami-Dade County announced it finalized its vote counts for the 2018 midterms.

The Miami New Times reported that the Opa-locka mail distribution center was evacuated in October after Trump megafan Cesar Sayoc allegedly sent pipe bombs that passed through the facility.

That same center reportedly is still home to a huge number of uncounted mail-in ballots. Two sources that spoke to the New Times estimated the total could be in the hundreds or thousands.

Local activists demonstrated outside the mail facility and at the Miami-Dade County Elections Department over the uncounted ballots — but according to an official with the Elections Department, the ballots are now invalid.






As I suggested before, having voting "rights" doesn't mean a d@mn thing if your votes are not counted. And there are many reports of Dem leaning ballots not being counted. Small wonder why the Republicans "win" so many of these elections.
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Looks like some serious election monkey business going on in the NC-9 election for Congress.

Spoiler alert -- the shennanigans were with absentee ballots, not fraudulent in person voting.

Of course! Since fraudulent in person voting is about the least effective way to try to mess with an election. Mail in and absentee ballots (while generally pretty safe/secure) are obviously the way to go if you want to mess with an election outcome.

Des[pite those obvious facts, NC continues to push for stricter and stricter and stricter photo voter ID requirements, even after having been smacked down by the courts several times. Why? Because strict voter ID isnot about stopping fraudulent votes. It is about preventing valid votes being cast by certain kinds of people. Just ask Thomas Farr if you have any doubts about that...

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opini ... 62650.html
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ggait wrote:Looks like some serious election monkey business going on in the NC-9 election for Congress.

Spoiler alert -- the shennanigans were with absentee ballots, not fraudulent in person voting.

Of course! Since fraudulent in person voting is about the least effective way to try to mess with an election. Mail in and absentee ballots (while generally pretty safe/secure) are obviously the way to go if you want to mess with an election outcome.

Des[pite those obvious facts, NC continues to push for stricter and stricter and stricter photo voter ID requirements, even after having been smacked down by the courts several times. Why? Because strict voter ID isnot about stopping fraudulent votes. It is about preventing valid votes being cast by certain kinds of people. Just ask Thomas Farr if you have any doubts about that...

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opini ... 62650.html
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