All things CoronaVirus

[MDlaxfan76]

Florida just opened up Publix pharmacies for vaccinations, 50 per day per pharmacy, website started at 6AM was full within an hour for appointments though the 27th of February.

Big question remains whether they'll actually have vaccine supply...still no CVS or Walgreens appointments...still jammed at Cleveland Clinic, no appointments avail. right now though they've had some...just don't know if they'll have supply.

Demand is WAY, WAY higher than supply.

[Typical Lax Dad]

There have been 24,254,284 coronavirus cases in the United States, and 401,777 people have died (Johns Hopkins). The United States has conducted 282,867,081 tests and distributed 31,161,075 vaccine doses, with 13,595,803 people initiating vaccination (U.S. CDC). Worldwide, there have been 96,255,312 confirmed cases of coronavirus, with 2,059,566 deaths. At least 53,160,043 people have recovered from the virus.

U.S. Surpasses 400,000 Covid-19 Deaths

On Tuesday, almost exactly a year after its first confirmed case of the virus, the United States passed 400,000 Covid-19 deaths (Johns Hopkins, WSJ, NBC). The first U.S. case was reported on January 21, 2020. Since then, more than 24 million U.S. cases and more than 95 million global cases have been confirmed. The death toll in the U.S. is much higher than anticipated at the onset of the pandemic, with inadequate control measures contributing to the rapid spread of the virus and the rate of fatalities increasing over the winter months. Now, health officials are focused on vaccinating as many people as possible as the virus continues to spread in all regions of the country. New cases and hospitalizations declined over the weekend, with the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday possibly contributing to a decrease in testing.

Nah, control measures wouldn’t make a difference.

[wgdsr]

There have been 24,254,284 coronavirus cases in the United States, and 401,777 people have died (Johns Hopkins). The United States has conducted 282,867,081 tests and distributed 31,161,075 vaccine doses, with 13,595,803 people initiating vaccination (U.S. CDC). Worldwide, there have been 96,255,312 confirmed cases of coronavirus, with 2,059,566 deaths. At least 53,160,043 people have recovered from the virus.

U.S. Surpasses 400,000 Covid-19 Deaths

On Tuesday, almost exactly a year after its first confirmed case of the virus, the United States passed 400,000 Covid-19 deaths (Johns Hopkins, WSJ, NBC). The first U.S. case was reported on January 21, 2020. Since then, more than 24 million U.S. cases and more than 95 million global cases have been confirmed. The death toll in the U.S. is much higher than anticipated at the onset of the pandemic, with inadequate control measures contributing to the rapid spread of the virus and the rate of fatalities increasing over the winter months. Now, health officials are focused on vaccinating as many people as possible as the virus continues to spread in all regions of the country. New cases and hospitalizations declined over the weekend, with the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday possibly contributing to a decrease in testing.

not knowing the source, do they say what specifically adequate control measures would be?

[MDlaxfan76]

There have been 24,254,284 coronavirus cases in the United States, and 401,777 people have died (Johns Hopkins). The United States has conducted 282,867,081 tests and distributed 31,161,075 vaccine doses, with 13,595,803 people initiating vaccination (U.S. CDC). Worldwide, there have been 96,255,312 confirmed cases of coronavirus, with 2,059,566 deaths. At least 53,160,043 people have recovered from the virus.

U.S. Surpasses 400,000 Covid-19 Deaths

On Tuesday, almost exactly a year after its first confirmed case of the virus, the United States passed 400,000 Covid-19 deaths (Johns Hopkins, WSJ, NBC). The first U.S. case was reported on January 21, 2020. Since then, more than 24 million U.S. cases and more than 95 million global cases have been confirmed. The death toll in the U.S. is much higher than anticipated at the onset of the pandemic, with inadequate control measures contributing to the rapid spread of the virus and the rate of fatalities increasing over the winter months. Now, health officials are focused on vaccinating as many people as possible as the virus continues to spread in all regions of the country. New cases and hospitalizations declined over the weekend, with the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday possibly contributing to a decrease in testing.

not knowing the source, do they say what specifically adequate control measures would be?

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Do you understand how your question seems to be challenging whether the word "inadequate" is fair and accurate?

You may be honestly curious as to exactly what specific control measures this specific 'source' would advocate, but that's not how it comes across.

[wgdsr]

Florida just opened up Publix pharmacies for vaccinations, 50 per day per pharmacy, website started at 6AM was full within an hour for appointments though the 27th of February.

Big question remains whether they'll actually have vaccine supply...still no CVS or Walgreens appointments...still jammed at Cleveland Clinic, no appointments avail. right now though they've had some...just don't know if they'll have supply.

Demand is WAY, WAY higher than supply.

for now it's up to florida and other places to have the distribution meet the daily supply (and what's already there). they're building out how they want and can do it. having it go thru maybe thousands of pharmacies and clinics in your state seems like you're working harder, not smarter. maybe they know they can put it together within a few weeks.

[wgdsr]

There have been 24,254,284 coronavirus cases in the United States, and 401,777 people have died (Johns Hopkins). The United States has conducted 282,867,081 tests and distributed 31,161,075 vaccine doses, with 13,595,803 people initiating vaccination (U.S. CDC). Worldwide, there have been 96,255,312 confirmed cases of coronavirus, with 2,059,566 deaths. At least 53,160,043 people have recovered from the virus.

U.S. Surpasses 400,000 Covid-19 Deaths

On Tuesday, almost exactly a year after its first confirmed case of the virus, the United States passed 400,000 Covid-19 deaths (Johns Hopkins, WSJ, NBC). The first U.S. case was reported on January 21, 2020. Since then, more than 24 million U.S. cases and more than 95 million global cases have been confirmed. The death toll in the U.S. is much higher than anticipated at the onset of the pandemic, with inadequate control measures contributing to the rapid spread of the virus and the rate of fatalities increasing over the winter months. Now, health officials are focused on vaccinating as many people as possible as the virus continues to spread in all regions of the country. New cases and hospitalizations declined over the weekend, with the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday possibly contributing to a decrease in testing.

not knowing the source, do they say what specifically adequate control measures would be?

?
Do you understand how your question seems to be challenging whether the word "inadequate" is fair and accurate?

You may be honestly curious as to exactly what specific control measures this specific 'source' would advocate, but that's not how it comes across.

yeah, i do understand you read a lot into what i say. prolly resigned to it by now.

[MDlaxfan76]

Florida just opened up Publix pharmacies for vaccinations, 50 per day per pharmacy, website started at 6AM was full within an hour for appointments though the 27th of February.

Big question remains whether they'll actually have vaccine supply...still no CVS or Walgreens appointments...still jammed at Cleveland Clinic, no appointments avail. right now though they've had some...just don't know if they'll have supply.

Demand is WAY, WAY higher than supply.

for now it's up to florida and other places to have the distribution meet the daily supply (and what's already there). they're building out how they want and can do it. having it go thru maybe thousands of pharmacies and clinics in your state seems like you're working harder, not smarter. maybe they know they can put it together within a few weeks.

Hope so...I'm not yet confident on timetable...I see the critiques of PA...and it's every bit as much of a mess here in Florida as suggested it is in PA (if accurate).

[MDlaxfan76]

There have been 24,254,284 coronavirus cases in the United States, and 401,777 people have died (Johns Hopkins). The United States has conducted 282,867,081 tests and distributed 31,161,075 vaccine doses, with 13,595,803 people initiating vaccination (U.S. CDC). Worldwide, there have been 96,255,312 confirmed cases of coronavirus, with 2,059,566 deaths. At least 53,160,043 people have recovered from the virus.

U.S. Surpasses 400,000 Covid-19 Deaths

On Tuesday, almost exactly a year after its first confirmed case of the virus, the United States passed 400,000 Covid-19 deaths (Johns Hopkins, WSJ, NBC). The first U.S. case was reported on January 21, 2020. Since then, more than 24 million U.S. cases and more than 95 million global cases have been confirmed. The death toll in the U.S. is much higher than anticipated at the onset of the pandemic, with inadequate control measures contributing to the rapid spread of the virus and the rate of fatalities increasing over the winter months. Now, health officials are focused on vaccinating as many people as possible as the virus continues to spread in all regions of the country. New cases and hospitalizations declined over the weekend, with the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday possibly contributing to a decrease in testing.

not knowing the source, do they say what specifically adequate control measures would be?

?
Do you understand how your question seems to be challenging whether the word "inadequate" is fair and accurate?

You may be honestly curious as to exactly what specific control measures this specific 'source' would advocate, but that's not how it comes across.

yeah, i do understand you read a lot into what i say. prolly resigned to it by now.

which is why I brought it up...don't want to make incorrect assumptions. Are you challenging whether the characterization is fair and accurate?

I had a conversation with a Canadian couple yesterday, Montreal.

They described what they've been through so far in mitigation efforts...much more stringent/longer than here in the spring, opened up over summer, fall resurgence, and then much harder mitigation again now.

8PM-6AM curfew, no restaurants, only truly essential shopping and work environments. Masking.

If you go to drug store, she said, and bring a tube of lipstick to the counter, they won't sell it to you...happy to deliver it if you order online, but no non-essential in store...don't want the shoppers out. Costco and Walmart etc were open in spring, but now can't sell anything to an in-store shopper other than the essential list of food and pharmaceuticals...but you can order online for delivery or curbside pick-up.

They have recently bent the curve on the resurgence, and have been less than a third of our per capita case rate, about a third of our deaths per capita...

[kramerica.inc]

Yet another good reason for people to move to Canada!

Alas, with just 44 minutes left of Trump, I imagine those promises by Snoop Dogg, Lena Dunham, Chelsea Handler, Neve Campbell, Raven-Symoné, Bryan Cranston and Barbra Streisand sadly, won't be kept.

[Typical Lax Dad]

There have been 24,254,284 coronavirus cases in the United States, and 401,777 people have died (Johns Hopkins). The United States has conducted 282,867,081 tests and distributed 31,161,075 vaccine doses, with 13,595,803 people initiating vaccination (U.S. CDC). Worldwide, there have been 96,255,312 confirmed cases of coronavirus, with 2,059,566 deaths. At least 53,160,043 people have recovered from the virus.

U.S. Surpasses 400,000 Covid-19 Deaths

On Tuesday, almost exactly a year after its first confirmed case of the virus, the United States passed 400,000 Covid-19 deaths (Johns Hopkins, WSJ, NBC). The first U.S. case was reported on January 21, 2020. Since then, more than 24 million U.S. cases and more than 95 million global cases have been confirmed. The death toll in the U.S. is much higher than anticipated at the onset of the pandemic, with inadequate control measures contributing to the rapid spread of the virus and the rate of fatalities increasing over the winter months. Now, health officials are focused on vaccinating as many people as possible as the virus continues to spread in all regions of the country. New cases and hospitalizations declined over the weekend, with the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday possibly contributing to a decrease in testing.

not knowing the source, do they say what specifically adequate control measures would be?

?
Do you understand how your question seems to be challenging whether the word "inadequate" is fair and accurate?

You may be honestly curious as to exactly what specific control measures this specific 'source' would advocate, but that's not how it comes across.

yeah, i do understand you read a lot into what i say. prolly resigned to it by now.

which is why I brought it up...don't want to make incorrect assumptions. Are you challenging whether the characterization is fair and accurate?

I had a conversation with a Canadian couple yesterday, Montreal.

They described what they've been through so far in mitigation efforts...much more stringent/longer than here in the spring, opened up over summer, fall resurgence, and then much harder mitigation again now.

8PM-6AM curfew, no restaurants, only truly essential shopping and work environments. Masking.

If you go to drug store, she said, and bring a tube of lipstick to the counter, they won't sell it to you...happy to deliver it if you order online, but no non-essential in store...don't want the shoppers out. Costco and Walmart etc were open in spring, but now can't sell anything to an in-store shopper other than the essential list of food and pharmaceuticals...but you can order online for delivery or curbside pick-up.

They have recently bent the curve on the resurgence, and have been less than a third of our per capita case rate, about a third of our deaths per capita...

Mitigation doesn’t work in this country.

[wgdsr]

ave daily numbers on cases and deaths since data crested but then got squirrelly on xmas week:
since dec 23 deaths - 2861 per day. our 7 day average on dec 23 was about 2670 and had been rising but starting to flatten. so was probably around 2700+ on that day. this week has a minor hiccup with MLK day, but we should have some semblance of where our 7 day average is by fri/sat, and then direction pointed from there.

which is to say if we are already declining this crest (hopefully) we may have topped right around 3000 or 3000 plus.

cases after pre-holiday high dec 21 to jan 19 actually averaged 217k, and cases were north of 220k at dec 21, but there were lower tests delivered than usual during holiday time. with tests at all time highs and positivity declining, for now post- this fri cases should be on the decline. we'll see, it's probably moderate for now and the whole month period is just noisy.

using hospitalizations as a guide to deaths, hopefully they are also declining post- friday.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics ... index.html

Yep. Can’t place any responsibility on Trump

[MDlaxfan76]

ave daily numbers on cases and deaths since data crested but then got squirrelly on xmas week:
since dec 23 deaths - 2861 per day. our 7 day average on dec 23 was about 2670 and had been rising but starting to flatten. so was probably around 2700+ on that day. this week has a minor hiccup with MLK day, but we should have some semblance of where our 7 day average is by fri/sat, and then direction pointed from there.

which is to say if we are already declining this crest (hopefully) we may have topped right around 3000 or 3000 plus.

cases after pre-holiday high dec 21 to jan 19 actually averaged 217k, and cases were north of 220k at dec 21, but there were lower tests delivered than usual during holiday time. with tests at all time highs and positivity declining, for now post- this fri cases should be on the decline. we'll see, it's probably moderate for now and the whole month period is just noisy.

using hospitalizations as a guide to deaths, hopefully they are also declining post- friday.

Fingers crossed...the new variants, however, pose the possibility of a faster spread. Hopefully the vaccine will work on the variants too and the most vulnerable will have been vaccinated in the next couple of months...my 84 year old mother still hasn't been able to land an appt in Florida...

[wgdsr]

ave daily numbers on cases and deaths since data crested but then got squirrelly on xmas week:
since dec 23 deaths - 2861 per day. our 7 day average on dec 23 was about 2670 and had been rising but starting to flatten. so was probably around 2700+ on that day. this week has a minor hiccup with MLK day, but we should have some semblance of where our 7 day average is by fri/sat, and then direction pointed from there.

which is to say if we are already declining this crest (hopefully) we may have topped right around 3000 or 3000 plus.

cases after pre-holiday high dec 21 to jan 19 actually averaged 217k, and cases were north of 220k at dec 21, but there were lower tests delivered than usual during holiday time. with tests at all time highs and positivity declining, for now post- this fri cases should be on the decline. we'll see, it's probably moderate for now and the whole month period is just noisy.

using hospitalizations as a guide to deaths, hopefully they are also declining post- friday.

Fingers crossed...the new variants, however, pose the possibility of a faster spread. Hopefully the vaccine will work on the variants too and the most vulnerable will have been vaccinated in the next couple of months...my 84 year old mother still hasn't been able to land an appt in Florida...

2 weeks ago pfizer tested on one mutation from uk variant.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55587320
yesterday some results on 10?
https://www.dw.com/en/biontech-pfizer-v ... a-56284614
in vitro and measuring antibodies, but seems like good news for now. i'm sure we haven't seen the last of variants.

for all the catch up states are in the midst of in figuring it out... for the time being it's frustrating no doubt, but having real demand is also a good thing. would be worse if we couldn't give them away already. that day will come.

[wgdsr]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics ... index.html

Yep. Can’t place any responsibility on Trump

cheer up tld! we're on a roll!

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics ... index.html

Yep. Can’t place any responsibility on Trump

cheer up tld! we're on a roll!

It doesn’t make a difference.

[MDlaxfan76]

ave daily numbers on cases and deaths since data crested but then got squirrelly on xmas week:
since dec 23 deaths - 2861 per day. our 7 day average on dec 23 was about 2670 and had been rising but starting to flatten. so was probably around 2700+ on that day. this week has a minor hiccup with MLK day, but we should have some semblance of where our 7 day average is by fri/sat, and then direction pointed from there.

which is to say if we are already declining this crest (hopefully) we may have topped right around 3000 or 3000 plus.

cases after pre-holiday high dec 21 to jan 19 actually averaged 217k, and cases were north of 220k at dec 21, but there were lower tests delivered than usual during holiday time. with tests at all time highs and positivity declining, for now post- this fri cases should be on the decline. we'll see, it's probably moderate for now and the whole month period is just noisy.

using hospitalizations as a guide to deaths, hopefully they are also declining post- friday.

Fingers crossed...the new variants, however, pose the possibility of a faster spread. Hopefully the vaccine will work on the variants too and the most vulnerable will have been vaccinated in the next couple of months...my 84 year old mother still hasn't been able to land an appt in Florida...

2 weeks ago they were tested on one mutation from uk variant.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55587320
yesterday some results on 10?
https://www.dw.com/en/biontech-pfizer-v ... a-56284614
in vitro and measuring antibodies, but seems like good news for now. i'm sure we haven't seen the last of variants.

for all the catch up states are in the midst of in figuring it out... for the time being it's frustrating no doubt, but having real demand is also a good thing. would be worse if we couldn't give them away already. that day will come.

agreed, still, I'll keep my fingers crossed...
It seems however that we may be in a bit of a race to get the vaccine protection into the most vulnerable before the faster spreading variants create an additional wave on top of the one which might otherwise be cresting about now.

Also agreed that demand being way higher than supply at this point is a good thing...I'm hoping that with the passage of time and many friends having taken the vaccine successfully more and more of the foot draggers will be willing to participate, leaving only the hard core whack job types.

I think we are likely to see some sort of 'medical passport' thing adopted by lots of businesses, and countries for entry and travel, that requires proof of vaccination before entering. Cruise lines, for instance, being a prime candidate for the requirement. Lots of others...and that'll incentivize for closer to 100%.

When Costco required customers to wear a mask to enter the store, people put on masks...

[wgdsr]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics ... index.html

Yep. Can’t place any responsibility on Trump

cheer up tld! we're on a roll!

It doesn’t make a difference.

momentum is an abstract concept in a lot of ways. and a practical one. some swear by it. sports. business. politics. real good case could be made for it on covid. let's gooooo!!

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics ... index.html

Yep. Can’t place any responsibility on Trump

cheer up tld! we're on a roll!

It doesn’t make a difference.

momentum is an abstract concept in a lot of ways. and a practical one. some swear by it. sports. business. politics. real good case could be made for it on covid. let's gooooo!!

A coach not putting in a ride and clear all season wouldn’t get much of a break around here...I guess lacrosse is more important. Anyway, let’s get folks vaccinated and get this behind us. Hoping to see a turn in the fall.

[wgdsr]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics ... index.html

Yep. Can’t place any responsibility on Trump

cheer up tld! we're on a roll!

It doesn’t make a difference.

momentum is an abstract concept in a lot of ways. and a practical one. some swear by it. sports. business. politics. real good case could be made for it on covid. let's gooooo!!

A coach not putting in a ride and clear all season wouldn’t get much of a break around here...I guess lacrosse is more important. Anyway, let’s get folks vaccinated and get this behind us. Hoping to see a turn in the fall.

2020? around here? you're absolutely right.