VIRGINIA LACROSSE 2020

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wgdsr wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:49 pm what? it says nothing close to what you said. all athletes. eligibility relief.
you think that will be a percentage of games they didn't play?
please explain.
there's no possible way they come back with some half-baked partial season referendum, for many reasons.
i'll take over/under all athletes full season... any eventual med redshirts excluded.
issue will be whether they make concessions on roster sizes/schollys. athletic departments will already have their own challenges there.
Aren’t you the guy who was implying that the Coronavirus wasn’t a big deal just 3 days ago and that it was ridiculous that Middlebury and Amherst were canceling their seasons? And took offense to me implying otherwise?

Yup, I remember now, that was you. ;)

I don’t know what the NCAA is going to do and neither do you. But I do know nothing is on or off the table and they’ve made athletes sit out for the starts of seasons in the past. And even once the NCAA has decided, each of the conferences make their own decisions. My point is that these kids should wait for the final determination before making any decisions.
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thetruth wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:07 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:49 pm what? it says nothing close to what you said. all athletes. eligibility relief.
you think that will be a percentage of games they didn't play?
please explain.
there's no possible way they come back with some half-baked partial season referendum, for many reasons.
i'll take over/under all athletes full season... any eventual med redshirts excluded.
issue will be whether they make concessions on roster sizes/schollys. athletic departments will already have their own challenges there.
Aren’t you the guy who was implying that the Coronavirus wasn’t a big deal just 3 days ago and that it was ridiculous that Middlebury and Amherst were canceling their seasons? And took offense to me implying otherwise?

Yup, I remember now, that was you. ;)

I don’t know what the NCAA is going to do and neither do you. But I do know nothing is on or off the table and they’ve made athletes sit out for the starts of seasons in the past. And even once the NCAA has decided, each of the conferences make their own decisions. My point is that these kids should wait for the final determination before making any decisions.
lol.
please quote me where i implied anything close to "it wasn't a big deal".
as far as me implying "it was ridiculous".. have some context... they were preemptive imo and you may love that. i didn't and don't. there's a very long discussion for that that belongs elsewhere. there was no taking offense to your view, rather i expressed mine, in a couple words, that the shutting down of society may not always be the best reaction depending on the timing and need for it.
and where is that coming from anyway in this discussion? you had the chance to reply there, and chose not to.
on the actual discussion, you said there's no way they'd be granting full years to people.
which is why i commented.
i think there's no way they don't. i agree they're normally pretty parsimonious. these are pretty extraordinary circumstances, and they're now on the hook.
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The only thing the NCAA is on the hook for is granting eligibility relief in a form to be determined at a later date. We’ll see what it means, but what an unfair situation for those HS kids who sacrificed their seasons and get nothing but a crowded roster next year. They essentially lose 2 years while the college kids lose nothing, but thankful for those HS kids for being heroes. If the NCAA wants to be fair, then they will make it a partial season. Share the pain ratably. But it seems the college athletes and their parents are far more organized to get their way.

Yes these are extraordinary circumstances but circumstances where many in the world are making huge real world sacrifices that will hurt for years for the greater good of society. Why are we coddling our college athletes? Aren’t they supposed to be the tough guys? The ones who can handle adversity and know what it means to sacrifice for the team to prevail?

What about the student who sacrificed the ability to complete their band season, concert performance or lab work that they have been working hard on for years? They just made the sacrifice, sucked it up and moved on. We need more people like that in the world. Whereas some college athletes are writing petitions and screaming “it’s not fair that I had to give up part of my athletic season!” When it all was in the name of helping society and saving lives.
Extraordinary circumstances indeed.
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Based on your comments around hurting incoming classes, it seems you feel all seniors this year and going forward will take this option granted by the NCAA. I’d think a senior class or 10 let’s say, you have 2-3 at most stay for another year. Agree it’s not ideal for incoming class but this is a completely unforeseen situation. For those that stay another year I am thrilled they get that opportunity. For those that move on to the next stage of their lives, I am also thrilled for them as they have earned their degree, and although not an ideal ending, have had a great experience and developed bonds with their teammates that will never fade. Tough situation but i unequivocally think the NCAA is making the most reasonable decision for all given the challenging situation.
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thetruth wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:16 pm The only thing the NCAA is on the hook for is granting eligibility relief in a form to be determined at a later date. We’ll see what it means, but what an unfair situation for those HS kids who sacrificed their seasons and get nothing but a crowded roster next year. They essentially lose 2 years while the college kids lose nothing, but thankful for those HS kids for being heroes. If the NCAA wants to be fair, then they will make it a partial season. Share the pain ratably. But it seems the college athletes and their parents are far more organized to get their way.

Yes these are extraordinary circumstances but circumstances where many in the world are making huge real world sacrifices that will hurt for years for the greater good of society. Why are we coddling our college athletes? Aren’t they supposed to be the tough guys? The ones who can handle adversity and know what it means to sacrifice for the team to prevail?

What about the student who sacrificed the ability to complete their band season, concert performance or lab work that they have been working hard on for years? They just made the sacrifice, sucked it up and moved on. We need more people like that in the world. Whereas some college athletes are writing petitions and screaming “it’s not fair that I had to give up part of my athletic season!” When it all was in the name of helping society and saving lives.
Extraordinary circumstances indeed.
other than what i've stated about what'll happen w the ncaa, i agree with about everything here.

hgk has some points that may happen, though there will be more than a few where a logjam happens.

this is a first world problem. but not without its first world duress.

still hoping that good fortune shines and when the fork comes, it goes our way.
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wgdsr wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:10 am still hoping that good fortune shines and when the fork comes, it goes our way.
Me too. Great post. We all need that positive mindset. Be well.
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Dox Aitken on Booker Corrigan show said he wants to play football at nova in the fall and then come back to UVA for lacrosse.
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AreaLax wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:31 pm Dox Aitken on Booker Corrigan show said he wants to play football at nova in the fall and then come back to UVA for lacrosse.
I'm....not sure this is possible. Scanning through NCAA transfer rules doesn't say anything explicitly one way or the other about it, but I've never heard of this being done before. I'm not even sure how it'd work academically. I could be wrong, but this seems like a pipe dream I'm afraid
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jrn19 wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:57 pm
AreaLax wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:31 pm Dox Aitken on Booker Corrigan show said he wants to play football at nova in the fall and then come back to UVA for lacrosse.
I'm....not sure this is possible. Scanning through NCAA transfer rules doesn't say anything explicitly one way or the other about it, but I've never heard of this being done before. I'm not even sure how it'd work academically. I could be wrong, but this seems like a pipe dream I'm afraid
Does anyone out there want to take a stab as to whether this is possible/permissible? Thank you.
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My guess would be its possible but doubt it's feasible given that so many would need to be aligned and on board. If he were ever to play football at Villanova,might be be tempted to continue there and play lax for Wildcats as they will be a good team in 2021.

Having hypothesized such, highly doubt anything happens on any front
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stupefied wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:57 am My guess would be its possible but doubt it's feasible given that so many would need to be aligned and on board. If he were ever to play football at Villanova,might be be tempted to continue there and play lax for Wildcats as they will be a good team in 2021.

Having hypothesized such, highly doubt anything happens on any front
Why not just play football at UVA?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:08 am
stupefied wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:57 am My guess would be its possible but doubt it's feasible given that so many would need to be aligned and on board. If he were ever to play football at Villanova,might be be tempted to continue there and play lax for Wildcats as they will be a good team in 2021.

Having hypothesized such, highly doubt anything happens on any front
Why not just play football at UVA?
Not to knock Dox's athletic talents or ability at football, but if he's going to play FCS football (which is still a good level for sure), he probably isn't good enough to play at UVA, which was a Top 40-ish team in FBS last year.
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This is almost certainly not feasible. The timing of it seems wildly unrealistic but the biggest barrier might be the Nova administration. Nova has a pretty strong FCS team but, let's be honest, its FCS. Having explicitely said this was his plan, I cannot fathom the Nova administartion admitting him for just one semester knowing that he would then withdraw. If he was going to Clemson for one football semester and had the potential to be an impact player maybe they "rent" him for one season but not at an FCS school.
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pcowlax wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:57 am This is almost certainly not feasible. The timing of it seems wildly unrealistic but the biggest barrier might be the Nova administration. Nova has a pretty strong FCS team but, let's be honest, its FCS. Having explicitely said this was his plan, I cannot fathom the Nova administartion admitting him for just one semester knowing that he would then withdraw. If he was going to Clemson for one football semester and had the potential to be an impact player maybe they "rent" him for one season but not at an FCS school.
It seems that being on the UVA football team is more sensible.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:12 am [quote=pcowlax post_id=132781 time=<a href="tel:1586271423">1586271423</a> user_id=362]
This is almost certainly not feasible. The timing of it seems wildly unrealistic but the biggest barrier might be the Nova administration. Nova has a pretty strong FCS team but, let's be honest, its FCS. Having explicitely said this was his plan, I cannot fathom the Nova administartion admitting him for just one semester knowing that he would then withdraw. If he was going to Clemson for one football semester and had the potential to be an impact player maybe they "rent" him for one season but not at an FCS school.
It seems that being on the UVA football team is more sensible.
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There isn’t a spot for him on UVA’s team. He’s not gonna get a scholarship to play on UVA’s and most walk on spots go to specialists or some are preferred; guys who are good enough to be on it but they don’t have the room for. If he could play football at UVA I imagine he would but UVA isn’t just going to take him because he plays for the lacrosse team; so this isn’t really an option for him
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It's not possible to play a sport at one school in the fall and then another sport, at a different school, in the spring. Dox is going to have to choose.
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jrn19 wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:12 am [quote=pcowlax post_id=132781 time=<a href="tel:1586271423">1586271423</a> user_id=362]
This is almost certainly not feasible. The timing of it seems wildly unrealistic but the biggest barrier might be the Nova administration. Nova has a pretty strong FCS team but, let's be honest, its FCS. Having explicitely said this was his plan, I cannot fathom the Nova administartion admitting him for just one semester knowing that he would then withdraw. If he was going to Clemson for one football semester and had the potential to be an impact player maybe they "rent" him for one season but not at an FCS school.
It seems that being on the UVA football team is more sensible.
There isn’t a spot for him on UVA’s team. He’s not gonna get a scholarship to play on UVA’s and most walk on spots go to specialists or some are preferred; guys who are good enough to be on it but they don’t have the room for. If he could play football at UVA I imagine he would but UVA isn’t just going to take him because he plays for the lacrosse team; so this isn’t really an option for him
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I didn’t think he would get a football scholarship. Time will tell. If he really wants to play lacrosse at UVA, it seems like walking on to the football team is his only option. It’s UVA.... not The Ohio State University.....
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Kraus announced he wont be returning for a 5th year. Sounds like he's moving on from college lax.
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JeremyCuse wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:01 pm Kraus announced he wont be returning for a 5th year. Sounds like he's moving on from college lax.
Kraus has already PG’d. Probably ready to move on. He has a good situation lined up.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:12 pm
jrn19 wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:50 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:12 am [quote=pcowlax post_id=132781 time=<a href="tel:1586271423">1586271423</a> user_id=362]
This is almost certainly not feasible. The timing of it seems wildly unrealistic but the biggest barrier might be the Nova administration. Nova has a pretty strong FCS team but, let's be honest, its FCS. Having explicitely said this was his plan, I cannot fathom the Nova administartion admitting him for just one semester knowing that he would then withdraw. If he was going to Clemson for one football semester and had the potential to be an impact player maybe they "rent" him for one season but not at an FCS school.
It seems that being on the UVA football team is more sensible.
There isn’t a spot for him on UVA’s team. He’s not gonna get a scholarship to play on UVA’s and most walk on spots go to specialists or some are preferred; guys who are good enough to be on it but they don’t have the room for. If he could play football at UVA I imagine he would but UVA isn’t just going to take him because he plays for the lacrosse team; so this isn’t really an option for him
I didn’t think he would get a football scholarship. Time will tell. If he really wants to play lacrosse at UVA, it seems like walking on to the football team is his only option. It’s UVA.... not The Ohio State University.....
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There's 97 players on UVA's team. 85 of those dudes are on scholarship. That's 12 walk-on spots, most of which go to kickers/punters, etc. and then some are preferred walk-ons and then you get your handful of walk-ons. You don't just walk-on to the football team; there probably isn't a spot for Dox on the team. They're not gonna let him take a spot if they've already got the spots or have someone else they want on there more.
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