Is a 2021 season going to happen?

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You can quote your global or national stats all day long but at some point people, like me, are going to start calling bs when they look around and see that the vast majority of people dealing with the symptoms are just fine.

I played along with the restrictions for months but my own anecdotal evidence is telling me to get off the bandwagon and start living again.

If your obese, old or scared..... stay the hell inside - your vaccine is around the corner.

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MA Lax Fan wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:39 am
You can quote your global or national stats all day long but at some point people, like me, are going to start calling bs when they look around and see that the vast majority of people dealing with the symptoms are just fine.

I played along with the restrictions for months but my own anecdotal evidence is telling me to get off the bandwagon and start living again.

If your obese, old or scared..... stay the hell inside - your vaccine is around the corner.
Yup, and that's why the growth in virus spread is skyrocketing and deaths are following in the wake...about 5 weeks later.

Thankfully, lots of people aren't being selfish...but too many are.

Too many are saying, 'hey, if I get sick, so what, I won't die' ignoring how many people they pass it to who may not be so lucky. Selfish. I wouldn't call it selfish if they didn't know better, but they do.

Think about the healthcare workers needing to deal with all this selfishness. But hey, if you don't care, you don't care, "start living again'.

Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.

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MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
MA Lax Fan wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:39 am
You can quote your global or national stats all day long but at some point people, like me, are going to start calling bs when they look around and see that the vast majority of people dealing with the symptoms are just fine.

I played along with the restrictions for months but my own anecdotal evidence is telling me to get off the bandwagon and start living again.

If your obese, old or scared..... stay the hell inside - your vaccine is around the corner.
Yup, and that's why the growth in virus spread is skyrocketing and deaths are following in the wake...about 5 weeks later.

Thankfully, lots of people aren't being selfish...but too many are.

Too many are saying, 'hey, if I get sick, so what, I won't die' ignoring how many people they pass it to who may not be so lucky. Selfish. I wouldn't call it selfish if they didn't know better, but they do.

Think about the healthcare workers needing to deal with all this selfishness. But hey, if you don't care, you don't care, "start living again'.

Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
My sister is a nurse in Ohio. She doesn’t have to work the COVID-19 units because she had a bout with breast cancer. She mentioned last week that work has been non stop. Ohio missed the wave back in the Spring. Not as lucky this time. I am doing my part to help.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
maybe not the primary focus of the topic, but the factual story on the above is that one party has one level of support in mind, and the other has another level. that's not in dispute.

not a rare instance in the hallowed halls of washington. given the circumstances, more urgency is probably required to find a solution. it isn't likely to come soon.

as this is the 2021 lax playing thread and not the politics thread, i'll throw in that the big boys in early production, astrazeneca/oxford, announced good prelim results on a slice of their early trial readout. if and only if things can be on best track, "general population" vaccination may start to be available sometime in february.

excluded from that group originally will be kids under 18, maybe 80-100 million people. throw in the anti-vaxxers and the i'll-wait-and-see group (25-40%?) and college students may be able to get in line. we shall see.

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wgdsr wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:16 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
maybe not the primary focus of the topic, but the factual story on the above is that one party has one level of support in mind, and the other has another level. that's not in dispute.

not a rare instance in the hallowed halls of washington. given the circumstances, more urgency is probably required to find a solution. it isn't likely to come soon.

as this is the 2021 lax playing thread and not the politics thread, i'll throw in that the big boys in early production, astrazeneca/oxford, announced good prelim results on a slice of their early trial readout. if and only if things can be on best track, "general population" vaccination may start to be available sometime in february.

excluded from that group originally will be kids under 18, maybe 80-100 million people. throw in the anti-vaxxers and the i'll-wait-and-see group (25-40%?) and college students may be able to get in line. we shall see.
I'm not so sure there's any level of support at this point for those folks under consideration from the White House, they appear to be scorched earth. My point (intended apolitically in this context) was solely that I'll save my sympathy for the folks struggling to make a living and thus needing to take some risks in order to do so, not those who just want to "live their life" and let'er rip. The latter is likely to make it much harder for the former to make it, and much more likely to face full lockdowns than if they did their part.

I'm skeptical still about the timetable of distribution, but totally agree that there will be some progress made on the vaccination front this winter and spring. Fingers crossed!

I'm far less concerned about the college kids and their personal risk than I am simply in the spread getting tamped down such that the community doesn't suffer...when enough of the most vulnerable folks have been vaccinated, that concern will be greatly lessened...that's why I think there's at least a shot at a late start spring season and quite likely summer ball full bore.

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MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:36 pm
wgdsr wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:16 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
maybe not the primary focus of the topic, but the factual story on the above is that one party has one level of support in mind, and the other has another level. that's not in dispute.

not a rare instance in the hallowed halls of washington. given the circumstances, more urgency is probably required to find a solution. it isn't likely to come soon.

as this is the 2021 lax playing thread and not the politics thread, i'll throw in that the big boys in early production, astrazeneca/oxford, announced good prelim results on a slice of their early trial readout. if and only if things can be on best track, "general population" vaccination may start to be available sometime in february.

excluded from that group originally will be kids under 18, maybe 80-100 million people. throw in the anti-vaxxers and the i'll-wait-and-see group (25-40%?) and college students may be able to get in line. we shall see.
I'm not so sure there's any level of support at this point for those folks under consideration from the White House, they appear to be scorched earth. My point (intended apolitically in this context) was solely that I'll save my sympathy for the folks struggling to make a living and thus needing to take some risks in order to do so, not those who just want to "live their life" and let'er rip. The latter is likely to make it much harder for the former to make it, and much more likely to face full lockdowns than if they did their part.

I'm skeptical still about the timetable of distribution, but totally agree that there will be some progress made on the vaccination front this winter and spring. Fingers crossed!

I'm far less concerned about the college kids and their personal risk than I am simply in the spread getting tamped down such that the community doesn't suffer...when enough of the most vulnerable folks have been vaccinated, that concern will be greatly lessened...that's why I think there's at least a shot at a late start spring season and quite likely summer ball full bore.
but your point in toto wasn't apolitical. you said the senate and white house have refused to extend any more temporary support. which is patently untrue, factually. and wasn't a concept brought up by anyone else.

understand that this is part of what i alluded to a day or so ago on another thread... makes anything else you say tough to take seriously by some on here when you posit an opinion as fact, and a false one at that. take that for what you will, it's not intended to be contentious or anything but informational to you. still frustrating.

i think everyone understands that the risk to healthy 20 year olds to play lacrosse is minimal, and what risk there is those players that play are willing to take on. the question will be whether administrators have the PR cover for a non-revenue sport in time. if decisions can be held off long enough, good news could keep coming in.

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Typical Lax Dad wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
MA Lax Fan wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:39 am
You can quote your global or national stats all day long but at some point people, like me, are going to start calling bs when they look around and see that the vast majority of people dealing with the symptoms are just fine.

I played along with the restrictions for months but my own anecdotal evidence is telling me to get off the bandwagon and start living again.

If your obese, old or scared..... stay the hell inside - your vaccine is around the corner.
Yup, and that's why the growth in virus spread is skyrocketing and deaths are following in the wake...about 5 weeks later.

Thankfully, lots of people aren't being selfish...but too many are.

Too many are saying, 'hey, if I get sick, so what, I won't die' ignoring how many people they pass it to who may not be so lucky. Selfish. I wouldn't call it selfish if they didn't know better, but they do.

Think about the healthcare workers needing to deal with all this selfishness. But hey, if you don't care, you don't care, "start living again'.

Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
My sister is a nurse in Ohio. She doesn’t have to work the COVID-19 units because she had a bout with breast cancer. She mentioned last week that work has been non stop. Ohio missed the wave back in the Spring. Not as lucky this time. I am doing my part to help.
This is exactly who we should be thinking of! Mask up and celebrate the holidays with just those in your households.

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wgdsr wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:10 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:36 pm
wgdsr wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:16 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
maybe not the primary focus of the topic, but the factual story on the above is that one party has one level of support in mind, and the other has another level. that's not in dispute.

not a rare instance in the hallowed halls of washington. given the circumstances, more urgency is probably required to find a solution. it isn't likely to come soon.

as this is the 2021 lax playing thread and not the politics thread, i'll throw in that the big boys in early production, astrazeneca/oxford, announced good prelim results on a slice of their early trial readout. if and only if things can be on best track, "general population" vaccination may start to be available sometime in february.

excluded from that group originally will be kids under 18, maybe 80-100 million people. throw in the anti-vaxxers and the i'll-wait-and-see group (25-40%?) and college students may be able to get in line. we shall see.
I'm not so sure there's any level of support at this point for those folks under consideration from the White House, they appear to be scorched earth. My point (intended apolitically in this context) was solely that I'll save my sympathy for the folks struggling to make a living and thus needing to take some risks in order to do so, not those who just want to "live their life" and let'er rip. The latter is likely to make it much harder for the former to make it, and much more likely to face full lockdowns than if they did their part.

I'm skeptical still about the timetable of distribution, but totally agree that there will be some progress made on the vaccination front this winter and spring. Fingers crossed!

I'm far less concerned about the college kids and their personal risk than I am simply in the spread getting tamped down such that the community doesn't suffer...when enough of the most vulnerable folks have been vaccinated, that concern will be greatly lessened...that's why I think there's at least a shot at a late start spring season and quite likely summer ball full bore.
but your point in toto wasn't apolitical. you said the senate and white house have refused to extend any more temporary support. which is patently untrue, factually. and wasn't a concept brought up by anyone else.

understand that this is part of what i alluded to a day or so ago on another thread... makes anything else you say tough to take seriously by some on here when you posit an opinion as fact, and a false one at that. take that for what you will, it's not intended to be contentious or anything but informational to you. still frustrating.

i think everyone understands that the risk to healthy 20 year olds to play lacrosse is minimal, and what risk there is those players that play are willing to take on. the question will be whether administrators have the PR cover for a non-revenue sport in time. if decisions can be held off long enough, good news could keep coming in.
You're picking a fight again...and on a topic that I didn't intend. That's actually pretty typical (IMO) of how you react to my posts, but that's certainly your right.

Actually, though I certainly could be mistaken, I'm very much under the impression that what I stated was factually accurate...no indication of a willingness by the White House (or Senate) to reach an agreement at this point.

Were they ever willing to do something much smaller than the House? Yes. But my impression is that went off the table. Could be wrong, but I don't think that's the case...please show me otherwise.

Of course, Trump has also recently tweeted that he wants a large deal (does he??)...but then Mnuchin just said no extensions of any of the existing support...which leaves a heck of a lot of people high and dry. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/whats ... 1605872579

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/1 ... omy-438487

Yet, you state, as if 100% sure, that what I've said is factually untrue...picking a fight on a nit that had nothing to do with my fundamental point. I think you're mistaken.

But that really wasn't my point, though I do understand that you saw it as 'political' and why.

Please read the post I was responding to. If you agree with that poster, go ahead and say so and why, but there's no need to pick a fight with me on this topic otherwise.

BTW, your last paragraph is stated as if factual, yet is of course just your opinion...I have no issue with your construction, but I do take issue with you critiquing mine yet doing the exact same thing. BTW, I agree with your view. And let's of course hope for more good news!

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MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:26 pm
wgdsr wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:10 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:36 pm
wgdsr wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:16 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am
Where I have all sorts of sympathy is for the small businesses, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc which are desperate to remain open to cover their fixed costs, make enough for their families, etc, given that the Senate and White House have refused to extend any more temporary support.
maybe not the primary focus of the topic, but the factual story on the above is that one party has one level of support in mind, and the other has another level. that's not in dispute.

not a rare instance in the hallowed halls of washington. given the circumstances, more urgency is probably required to find a solution. it isn't likely to come soon.

as this is the 2021 lax playing thread and not the politics thread, i'll throw in that the big boys in early production, astrazeneca/oxford, announced good prelim results on a slice of their early trial readout. if and only if things can be on best track, "general population" vaccination may start to be available sometime in february.

excluded from that group originally will be kids under 18, maybe 80-100 million people. throw in the anti-vaxxers and the i'll-wait-and-see group (25-40%?) and college students may be able to get in line. we shall see.
I'm not so sure there's any level of support at this point for those folks under consideration from the White House, they appear to be scorched earth. My point (intended apolitically in this context) was solely that I'll save my sympathy for the folks struggling to make a living and thus needing to take some risks in order to do so, not those who just want to "live their life" and let'er rip. The latter is likely to make it much harder for the former to make it, and much more likely to face full lockdowns than if they did their part.

I'm skeptical still about the timetable of distribution, but totally agree that there will be some progress made on the vaccination front this winter and spring. Fingers crossed!

I'm far less concerned about the college kids and their personal risk than I am simply in the spread getting tamped down such that the community doesn't suffer...when enough of the most vulnerable folks have been vaccinated, that concern will be greatly lessened...that's why I think there's at least a shot at a late start spring season and quite likely summer ball full bore.
but your point in toto wasn't apolitical. you said the senate and white house have refused to extend any more temporary support. which is patently untrue, factually. and wasn't a concept brought up by anyone else.

understand that this is part of what i alluded to a day or so ago on another thread... makes anything else you say tough to take seriously by some on here when you posit an opinion as fact, and a false one at that. take that for what you will, it's not intended to be contentious or anything but informational to you. still frustrating.

i think everyone understands that the risk to healthy 20 year olds to play lacrosse is minimal, and what risk there is those players that play are willing to take on. the question will be whether administrators have the PR cover for a non-revenue sport in time. if decisions can be held off long enough, good news could keep coming in.
You're picking a fight again...and on a topic that I didn't intend. That's actually pretty typical (IMO) of how you react to my posts, but that's certainly your right.

Actually, though I certainly could be mistaken, I'm very much under the impression that what I stated was factually accurate...no indication of a willingness by the White House (or Senate) to reach an agreement at this point.

Were they ever willing to do something much smaller than the House? Yes. But my impression is that went off the table. Could be wrong, but I don't think that's the case...please show me otherwise.

Of course, Trump has also recently tweeted that he wants a large deal (does he??)...but then Mnuchin just said no extensions of any of the existing support...which leaves a heck of a lot of people high and dry. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/whats ... 1605872579

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/1 ... omy-438487

Yet, you state, as if 100% sure, that what I've said is factually untrue...picking a fight on a nit that had nothing to do with my fundamental point. I think you're mistaken.

But that really wasn't my point, though I do understand that you saw it as 'political' and why.

Please read the post I was responding to. If you agree with that poster, go ahead and say so and why, but there's no need to pick a fight with me on this topic otherwise.

BTW, your last paragraph is stated as if factual, yet is of course just your opinion...I have no issue with your construction, but I do take issue with you critiquing mine yet doing the exact same thing. BTW, I agree with your view. And let's of course hope for more good news!
nah. not a nit. you called it. i made a comment to correct. you decided to double down.
here's a short list of either side, non-exclusive:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 640576001/
the $500 billion stimulus was voted on, and defeated. every single democrat in the senate that voted on it, voted against it. the same week, the ppp bill was blocked. by democrats. was that a trillion dollars total? 750 billion? you know how large an amount that much money is, so i won't belabor it.

if those bills came up again tomorrow, republicans would vote yay, democrats nay. if by senate you weren't alluding to republicans in the senate but rather democrats, then i apologize for detailing the above.

here was yesterday:
https://fortune.com/2020/11/20/second-s ... e-funding/
there are dozens of articles after the election detailing mcconnell's job one as a stimulus deal.

and if those "targeted" bills hypothetically ever got thru the house (they never would), it's difficult to imagine any scenario where they wouldn't make it thru the white house.

in any event, democrats are well within their rights to want to do more. all good and no problem with it. they each get neutral "blame" as far as i'm concerned if there's blame to go around for not pulling a negotiation off. which is probably a ways off, at least until they see georgia results, and maybe after january. who has the power.

all of which is why i made the initial innocuous reply that i did. which wasn't good enough for you.

last paragraph? predicting future events? who doesn't know those aren't facts but rather predictions? that needs to be spelled out to whom? seriously? you could wait a day or 2. i'm sure i'll have a post or 2 at least that reads like a fact.

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I wasn't talking about a month ago...right now. You picked the nit, had nothing to do with the core point, and are not correct...IMO.
I'm concerned with the folks dealing with the effects of selfish behavior, and empathize with those trying to get by economically, not those who think there's some major sacrifice in wearing a mask and not gathering in crowds to drink and party...

IMO, that also makes it far harder to get the 2021 spring season...

But you picked the political nit.

But hey, that's your opinion and this is a discussion board.
Fair enough.

I'm also fine with the 'neutral blame'.
Well, not really, but let's take that to the politics thread.

And yeah, you stated your opinion as if fact. I, too, don't have a problem with it, just your objection to my doing so.
But please do correct me all you want, I'm not always right!

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MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:52 am
I wasn't talking about a month ago...right now. You picked the nit, had nothing to do with the core point, and are not correct...IMO.
I'm concerned with the folks dealing with the effects of selfish behavior, and empathize with those trying to get by economically, not those who think there's some major sacrifice in wearing a mask and not gathering in crowds to drink and party...

IMO, that also makes it far harder to get the 2021 spring season...

But you picked the political nit.

But hey, that's your opinion and this is a discussion board.
Fair enough.

I'm also fine with the 'neutral blame'.
Well, not really, but let's take that to the politics thread.

And yeah, you stated your opinion as if fact. I, too, don't have a problem with it, just your objection to my doing so.
But please do correct me all you want, I'm not always right!
have it your way! you largely do!

to be clear, again... don't object to anyone, yourself included, forming opinions as facts. it's pretty common. pointing it out ain't against fanlax law. be my guest when warranted! actually, i think i'll start seeing if i can get myself to do it much more often.

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wgdsr wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:01 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:52 am
I wasn't talking about a month ago...right now. You picked the nit, had nothing to do with the core point, and are not correct...IMO.
I'm concerned with the folks dealing with the effects of selfish behavior, and empathize with those trying to get by economically, not those who think there's some major sacrifice in wearing a mask and not gathering in crowds to drink and party...

IMO, that also makes it far harder to get the 2021 spring season...

But you picked the political nit.

But hey, that's your opinion and this is a discussion board.
Fair enough.

I'm also fine with the 'neutral blame'.
Well, not really, but let's take that to the politics thread.

And yeah, you stated your opinion as if fact. I, too, don't have a problem with it, just your objection to my doing so.
But please do correct me all you want, I'm not always right!
have it your way! you largely do!

to be clear, again... don't object to anyone, yourself included, forming opinions as facts. it's pretty common. pointing it out ain't against fanlax law. be my guest when warranted! actually, i think i'll start seeing if i can get myself to do it much more often.
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PizzaSnake wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:21 pm
https://www.biospace.com/article/sars-c ... -symptoms/

Not going to happen.
Why? Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US anyway. I don't see anyone calling for sports to be stopped because of it. Let the boys play. If some want to opt-out, fine. But the decision to play or not needs to be up to the players and not these conferences or the crooked NCAA.

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PizzaSnake wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:21 pm
https://www.biospace.com/article/sars-c ... -symptoms/

Not going to happen.
This was discussed quite a bit ago on this thread. I think PcoWlax has some interesting insight into this.

Having had a person close to me go through this, with Symptoms, I began to read quite a bit of cardiology stuff. A large number of published cardiologists that I read, many specialists in MRI, were less than kind to this study.

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Most of the colleges here in the Northeast where the bulk of college lacrosse is played have made it to their goal line. The plan was to get to Thanksgiving without shutting down and then send everyone home until sometime in January. Unfortunately, this surge appears real and showing no signs of slowing down. I thought the hysteria would die down after the election regardless of who won but that hasn't happened. For spring sports the coming winter sports being successful is critical. Some conferences had fall sports, not including football like the ACC with soccer and field hockey playing modified schedules and by most accounts, it went pretty well. Many did not, like the Big10 CAA Big East etc, so how it goes this winter will tell the tale for the spring. We really need basketball to go well. My son who came home from his mid-size D1 program last night told me Basketball is on but has had several cases of players with the virus as did the lacrosse team. This may actually help because it is believed that once you have it you are immune for at least a few months. He also said his coach told them to expect a smaller schedule probably starting games later.

The quicker the vaccines can start to be distributed the better, I have said for months that will be the key for a somewhat normal season. Quantas Airlines announced that if you want to fly internationally you will need proof of the vaccine once distributed. I believe this is just the start, and if you want to play college sports or live in a dorm it will be mandatory. My son said some of his teammates implied that they didn't want to take the vaccine, to which he said considering all the sacrifices you made to be here taking a vaccine is just another one.

Our former club lacrosse team along with many more have been playing events all fall, and local high schools played modified schedules so it can be done. The question is: do the athletic departments and administrations have the will to power through for non-revenue sports when canceling is so easy? We will soon see.

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Bart wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:08 am
PizzaSnake wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:21 pm
https://www.biospace.com/article/sars-c ... -symptoms/

Not going to happen.
This was discussed quite a bit ago on this thread. I think PcoWlax has some interesting insight into this.

Having had a person close to me go through this, with Symptoms, I began to read quite a bit of cardiology stuff. A large number of published cardiologists that I read, many specialists in MRI, were less than kind to this study.
+1 Bart. This study has serious flaws, and has been largely discredited by many leading scientists. Eric Topol is not exactly what you would call an extremely reputable scientist, he is much more of a pseudo-politician with extremist, largely fearmongering views. He cherry picks data from studies without giving the whole picture and anything that comes from him should be taken with a LARGE GRAIN of salt. He is only marginally more reputable than Eric Feigl-Ding, who at this point has zero credibility at all as he is a nutritionist that Harvard went as far as to distance themselves from him and is quite clear in his deranged attempt to be a part of The Biden Admin. The American Heart Association came out and said that Myocarditis is quite rare among mild cases of CV-19, so this has been largely debunked. If this were not the case, there would have been no NCAA Football or Basketball, which starts tomorrow.

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Re: Is a 2021 season going to happen?

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xxxxxxx wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:14 am
Most of the colleges here in the Northeast where the bulk of college lacrosse is played have made it to their goal line. The plan was to get to Thanksgiving without shutting down and then send everyone home until sometime in January. Unfortunately, this surge appears real and showing no signs of slowing down. I thought the hysteria would die down after the election regardless of who won but that hasn't happened. For spring sports the coming winter sports being successful is critical. Some conferences had fall sports, not including football like the ACC with soccer and field hockey playing modified schedules and by most accounts, it went pretty well. Many did not, like the Big10 CAA Big East etc, so how it goes this winter will tell the tale for the spring. We really need basketball to go well. My son who came home from his mid-size D1 program last night told me Basketball is on but has had several cases of players with the virus as did the lacrosse team. This may actually help because it is believed that once you have it you are immune for at least a few months. He also said his coach told them to expect a smaller schedule probably starting games later.

The quicker the vaccines can start to be distributed the better, I have said for months that will be the key for a somewhat normal season. Quantas Airlines announced that if you want to fly internationally you will need proof of the vaccine once distributed. I believe this is just the start, and if you want to play college sports or live in a dorm it will be mandatory. My son said some of his teammates implied that they didn't want to take the vaccine, to which he said considering all the sacrifices you made to be here taking a vaccine is just another one.

Our former club lacrosse team along with many more have been playing events all fall, and local high schools played modified schedules so it can be done. The question is: do the athletic departments and administrations have the will to power through for non-revenue sports when canceling is so easy? We will soon see.
You believe canceling sports is an easy decision? I am hoping our local university has a spring lacrosse season but the school has to so a better job with testing and tracing. It was pretty much a disaster this fall but the school didn’t shutdown. Banned a lot of kids from campus though. I am pretty sure that included lacrosse players given where one of the problems with spread was. My daughter’s school has a much better chance in the Spring as they so far more testing and have much better processes and procedures to keep it tamped down. All comes down to spending money.
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Re: Is a 2021 season going to happen?

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JoeMauer89 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:14 am
Bart wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:08 am
PizzaSnake wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:21 pm
https://www.biospace.com/article/sars-c ... -symptoms/

Not going to happen.
This was discussed quite a bit ago on this thread. I think PcoWlax has some interesting insight into this.

Having had a person close to me go through this, with Symptoms, I began to read quite a bit of cardiology stuff. A large number of published cardiologists that I read, many specialists in MRI, were less than kind to this study.
+1 Bart. This study has serious flaws, and has been largely discredited by many leading scientists. Eric Topol is not exactly what you would call an extremely reputable scientist, he is much more of a pseudo-politician with extremist, largely fearmongering views. He cherry picks data from studies without giving the whole picture and anything that comes from him should be taken with a LARGE GRAIN of salt. He is only marginally more reputable than Eric Feigl-Ding, who at this point has zero credibility at all as he is a nutritionist that Harvard went as far as to distance themselves from him and is quite clear in his deranged attempt to be a part of The Biden Admin. The American Heart Association came out and said that Myocarditis is quite rare among mild cases of CV-19, so this has been largely debunked. If this were not the case, there would have been no NCAA Football or Basketball, which starts tomorrow.

JoeMauer89!
I am hoping hoops goes off relatively well. Just saw my neighbor walking her dog and asked her about U. Of Texas basketball where he son in a trainer.....They have scaled back staff and she is not sure where they are on attendance but hoping they can get in some sort of season. We will see how it goes.

I have never been worried about the athletes. I have always worried about the combination of bars being open and people standing and sitting around drinking while watching football.
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Re: Is a 2021 season going to happen?

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Typical Lax Dad wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:15 am
xxxxxxx wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:14 am
Most of the colleges here in the Northeast where the bulk of college lacrosse is played have made it to their goal line. The plan was to get to Thanksgiving without shutting down and then send everyone home until sometime in January. Unfortunately, this surge appears real and showing no signs of slowing down. I thought the hysteria would die down after the election regardless of who won but that hasn't happened. For spring sports the coming winter sports being successful is critical. Some conferences had fall sports, not including football like the ACC with soccer and field hockey playing modified schedules and by most accounts, it went pretty well. Many did not, like the Big10 CAA Big East etc, so how it goes this winter will tell the tale for the spring. We really need basketball to go well. My son who came home from his mid-size D1 program last night told me Basketball is on but has had several cases of players with the virus as did the lacrosse team. This may actually help because it is believed that once you have it you are immune for at least a few months. He also said his coach told them to expect a smaller schedule probably starting games later.

The quicker the vaccines can start to be distributed the better, I have said for months that will be the key for a somewhat normal season. Quantas Airlines announced that if you want to fly internationally you will need proof of the vaccine once distributed. I believe this is just the start, and if you want to play college sports or live in a dorm it will be mandatory. My son said some of his teammates implied that they didn't want to take the vaccine, to which he said considering all the sacrifices you made to be here taking a vaccine is just another one.

Our former club lacrosse team along with many more have been playing events all fall, and local high schools played modified schedules so it can be done. The question is: do the athletic departments and administrations have the will to power through for non-revenue sports when canceling is so easy? We will soon see.
You believe canceling sports is an easy decision? I am hoping our local university has a spring lacrosse season but the school has to so a better job with testing and tracing. It was pretty much a disaster this fall but the school didn’t shutdown. Banned a lot of kids from campus though. I am pretty sure that included lacrosse players given where one of the problems with spread was. My daughter’s school has a much better chance in the Spring as they so far more testing and have much better processes and procedures to keep it tamped down. All comes down to spending money.
the contempt i have for many schools is high right now.
rather than invest and work... mail in instruction, create snitch protocols, blame the students and not the process, make an example of a few, hole them all up in their rooms, all in the short term interest of the bottom line.

"we're all in this together".

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