COVID-19 (coronavirus) impact on Women's Lacrosse

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Valid point...

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...but care to make a wager there will be as many women’s lax programs in ‘21-‘22 if this insanity perpetuates?

Peace, out.

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Let me preface by saying my conspiracy theories are usually dead wrong. I have no knowledge of the situation at Stanford, but if I had to guess, maybe those sports were already on the chopping block, and would have eventually been cut regardless of Covid. Seems like a very convenient time (excuse) for schools to cut. Maybe, just maybe they are making room for new sports teams in the future.
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SPIDERLAXFAN wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:10 pm Let me preface by saying my conspiracy theories are usually dead wrong. I have no knowledge of the situation at Stanford, but if I had to guess, maybe those sports were already on the chopping block, and would have eventually been cut regardless of Covid. Seems like a very convenient time (excuse) for schools to cut. Maybe, just maybe they are making room for new sports teams in the future.
I think this is a plain investment decision: free up chairs in the dorms and classrooms for academic achievers who will become donating alumni.
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Sadly, I suspect what is happening at Stanford and Dartmouth is just the beginning. No football is going to force AD's to make lots of tough decisions.
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What a travesty. Ivy League with all their incredibly large endowments should find a way. I am hopeful that the Big Ten and the other Power 5 Conference schools make it work and have fall sports (especially football) and show the rest of us that it can be done safely.
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NESCAC has cancelled fall sports.
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D just told me Patriot League cancelled all Fall Sports.

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/1 ... eason.aspx
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Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:28 am D just told me Patriot League cancelled all Fall Sports.

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/1 ... eason.aspx
yep, as I feared - Ivies, NESCAC and then Patriot league. There will be no fall ball either but there is some hope that football will be played in the spring. My greatest fear is that within a week or maybe two, a patriot league school will announce online classes only for the fall and then the rest of the league will follow.
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8meterPA wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:28 am D just told me Patriot League cancelled all Fall Sports.

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/1 ... eason.aspx
yep, as I feared - Ivies, NESCAC and then Patriot league. There will be no fall ball either but there is some hope that football will be played in the spring. My greatest fear is that within a week or maybe two, a patriot league school will announce online classes only for the fall and then the rest of the league will follow.
I am still hoping that for WLAX, that the competition days can be pushed back to Winter/early Spring so that there will be some scrimmaging....
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I am still hoping that for WLAX, that the competition days can be pushed back to Winter/early Spring so that there will be some scrimmaging....
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Don't want to sound like a broken record, but barring a medical and political miracle, the '20-21 sports seasons are over.
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Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:23 pm
8meterPA wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:28 am D just told me Patriot League cancelled all Fall Sports.

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/1 ... eason.aspx
yep, as I feared - Ivies, NESCAC and then Patriot league. There will be no fall ball either but there is some hope that football will be played in the spring. My greatest fear is that within a week or maybe two, a patriot league school will announce online classes only for the fall and then the rest of the league will follow.
I am still hoping that for WLAX, that the competition days can be pushed back to Winter/early Spring so that there will be some scrimmaging....
I'm with you Doc - I really enjoy fall ball for a lot of reasons and hate losing that as well as potential scrimmages in the spring and what may be a shortened season.
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8meterPA wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:28 am D just told me Patriot League cancelled all Fall Sports.

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/1 ... eason.aspx
yep, as I feared - Ivies, NESCAC and then Patriot league. There will be no fall ball either but there is some hope that football will be played in the spring. My greatest fear is that within a week or maybe two, a patriot league school will announce online classes only for the fall and then the rest of the league will follow.
The Patriot League needs to be very careful here. They are not the Ivy League, and in reality, outside of the service academies, they have more in common with DIII schools that are tuition-dependent than deep pocketed, endowment rich schools in the Ivies. The Patriot League has a very high cost profile, that without sports students might take a second look at from an ROI perspective. Why pay 65k a year for a school with 3k enrollment that has limited national reach. Loyola, Holy Cross, Lafayette, Lehigh, Colgate, and Bucknell are really not all that different from the Rhodes, Washington and Lee's of the world. The DIII schools know they are tuition-dependent, I am not sure the Patriot League does. American lost over $100 million in revenue due to COVID, a staggering amount when comparing it to a big state school in the Big Ten that only lost $80 million but has 6X the enrollment, but has research and other sources of income from R & D combined with state support and an overall lower tuition cost structure. Schools like those in the Patriot League are at the center of the bulls eye
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The onslought of group think, politics and a litigious society has schools quaking that having any classes or athletics will lead to a lawsuit(s) that kills their business. I don't get it. We are told to follow the data and science. The CDC site shows 179 deaths from Covid 19 for the 0-24 age group. Total shut down. In 2018 we sadly lost 81,000 souls to influenza and nothing was reported or said. What a shame. Another 12-18 months of this will have our country looking nothing like we knew it 6 months ago. Is it worth it?
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livelovelax wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:44 pm The onslought of group think, politics and a litigious society has schools quaking that having any classes or athletics will lead to a lawsuit(s) that kills their business. I don't get it. We are told to follow the data and science. The CDC site shows 179 deaths from Covid 19 for the 0-24 age group. Total shut down. In 2018 we sadly lost 81,000 souls to influenza and nothing was reported or said. What a shame. Another 12-18 months of this will have our country looking nothing like we knew it 6 months ago. Is it worth it?
Well Said, it is NOT. Just one man's opinion though. :lol:
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8meterPA wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:13 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:28 am D just told me Patriot League cancelled all Fall Sports.

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/1 ... eason.aspx
yep, as I feared - Ivies, NESCAC and then Patriot league. There will be no fall ball either but there is some hope that football will be played in the spring. My greatest fear is that within a week or maybe two, a patriot league school will announce online classes only for the fall and then the rest of the league will follow.
Rumor has it that the PSAC is following suit

Edit: rumor no more: https://psacsports.org/news/2020/7/15/g ... -2020.aspx
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JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:59 pm
livelovelax wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:44 pm The onslought of group think, politics and a litigious society has schools quaking that having any classes or athletics will lead to a lawsuit(s) that kills their business. I don't get it. We are told to follow the data and science. The CDC site shows 179 deaths from Covid 19 for the 0-24 age group. Total shut down. In 2018 we sadly lost 81,000 souls to influenza and nothing was reported or said. What a shame. Another 12-18 months of this will have our country looking nothing like we knew it 6 months ago. Is it worth it?
Well Said, it is NOT. Just one man's opinion though. :lol:
Pls the CDC numbers don't tell the whole story. These deaths, old and young, have all been associated with other underlying health issues. Healthy college athletics n healthy college students are at a very minimal risk of serious complications form COVID-19
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TNLAX wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:36 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:59 pm
livelovelax wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:44 pm The onslought of group think, politics and a litigious society has schools quaking that having any classes or athletics will lead to a lawsuit(s) that kills their business. I don't get it. We are told to follow the data and science. The CDC site shows 179 deaths from Covid 19 for the 0-24 age group. Total shut down. In 2018 we sadly lost 81,000 souls to influenza and nothing was reported or said. What a shame. Another 12-18 months of this will have our country looking nothing like we knew it 6 months ago. Is it worth it?
Well Said, it is NOT. Just one man's opinion though. :lol:
Pls the CDC numbers don't tell the whole story. These deaths, old and young, have all been associated with other underlying health issues. Healthy college athletics n healthy college students are at a very minimal risk of serious complications form COVID-19
Are they the only ones on campus?
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Bart wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:05 am
TNLAX wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:36 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:59 pm
livelovelax wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:44 pm The onslought of group think, politics and a litigious society has schools quaking that having any classes or athletics will lead to a lawsuit(s) that kills their business. I don't get it. We are told to follow the data and science. The CDC site shows 179 deaths from Covid 19 for the 0-24 age group. Total shut down. In 2018 we sadly lost 81,000 souls to influenza and nothing was reported or said. What a shame. Another 12-18 months of this will have our country looking nothing like we knew it 6 months ago. Is it worth it?
Well Said, it is NOT. Just one man's opinion though. :lol:
Pls the CDC numbers don't tell the whole story. These deaths, old and young, have all been associated with other underlying health issues. Healthy college athletics n healthy college students are at a very minimal risk of serious complications form COVID-19
Are they the only ones on campus?
Of course not, but it seems, by the numbers, that it only has real negative affects on a very small percentage of the population. Statistically, the professors and support staffs at universities have a greater chance of dying in a car accident on their way to work than they do from COVID-19.
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TNLAX wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:02 am
Bart wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:05 am
TNLAX wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:36 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:59 pm
livelovelax wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:44 pm The onslought of group think, politics and a litigious society has schools quaking that having any classes or athletics will lead to a lawsuit(s) that kills their business. I don't get it. We are told to follow the data and science. The CDC site shows 179 deaths from Covid 19 for the 0-24 age group. Total shut down. In 2018 we sadly lost 81,000 souls to influenza and nothing was reported or said. What a shame. Another 12-18 months of this will have our country looking nothing like we knew it 6 months ago. Is it worth it?
Well Said, it is NOT. Just one man's opinion though. :lol:
Pls the CDC numbers don't tell the whole story. These deaths, old and young, have all been associated with other underlying health issues. Healthy college athletics n healthy college students are at a very minimal risk of serious complications form COVID-19
Are they the only ones on campus?
Of course not, but it seems, by the numbers, that it only has real negative affects on a very small percentage of the population. Statistically, the professors and support staffs at universities have a greater chance of dying in a car accident on their way to work than they do from COVID-19.
I would love to read the data that supports this. Thank you.
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